Cross-fire injection resources
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Racer
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Cross-fire injection resources
Hello, 82 owner here. I wanna learn more about the CFI system. Any good resources other than the shop manual and the AIM? It can be at any level of technical depth.
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CFI is essentially the same exact thing as other GM TBI systems. The only difference is that the two injectors are placed in two separate one barrel throttle bodies instead of being in one two barrel throttle body. You'll probably find a lot more information on TBI then CFI, the principles are applied in the same manner in both systems.
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CFI is essentially the same exact thing as other GM TBI systems. The only difference is that the two injectors are placed in two separate one barrel throttle bodies instead of being in one two barrel throttle body. You'll probably find a lot more information on TBI then CFI, the principles are applied in the same manner in both systems.
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In one of the biggest libraries in Maryland at the moment, Ill see what I find. Thanks. If anyone knows of any CFI specific resources, please lmk.
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If you want to know more about a better ECM, go here and start reading. EBL Also, there is a TON of good info on the Third Gen site about DIY tuning in the Technical area etc... Go here 3rd Gen Personally, I've been doing CFI for 30 years specifically and I wouldn't waste my time with PROM or programing/burning anything for CFI, it isn't worth the effort. I've been down that road two decades ago with CFI. However, if you want to improve your 82 CF, the EBL IS the right way to go since it IS 100% laptop tunable and can accommodate any mods you want to throw at it or just get a better stock tune. Also, if you are looking for a better stock tune, let me know and I will send you a GREAT stock tune for an 82 for FREE. Jus sayin'. Downside, you WILL need an EBL to use it. Hope this helps.
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A tune isn't just for performance. You can improve drivability, fuel economy, idle speed, etc. All the adjustments you used to make with hand tools to get the car to operate the way you prefer is done with a laptop. For example, most everyone hates that their converter locks up too early. A tune can raise the lock up MPH so it's no longer a annoyance. A updated and tuneable ECM is the single best thing for any 80's EFI car.
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Also, the dealership called me and thanked me for the tune and was amazed how well it ran. They made one small change to the tune and lowered the idle down just a touch.
One more thing, there is not much out there on the stock ECM like there was a couple decades ago when CFI was VERY hot subject, but if you dig for it, you may find the info you seek. The 82 stock tune was never fully hacked like the 84 was BTW.
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Some good info right here if you have not found it
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...solutions.html
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None! However, one guy that was testing his 82 for us and there were three 82s in the EBL test tuning, but really four which was a chevy dealership in MO with an 82 as well. One of the 82s after the final tune bin file took it out and hammered it. His reply to me was..."If my doors were wings, this car would have took off". He really liked the performance vs his stock GM ECM tune. My tune is not on the hairy edge by any means, but it isn't as conservative as GMs either. So, since mine is nowhere's stock, I can not test that tune on my 82, but like I said, four other 82s liked it. My current tune in my 82 has not been to the track yet, but 11s is in my future...ALL CFI, NO bottle.
Also, the dealership called me and thanked me for the tune and was amazed how well it ran. They made one small change to the tune and lowered the idle down just a touch.
One more thing, there is not much out there on the stock ECM like there was a couple decades ago when CFI was VERY hot subject, but if you dig for it, you may find the info you seek. The 82 stock tune was never fully hacked like the 84 was BTW.
Also, the dealership called me and thanked me for the tune and was amazed how well it ran. They made one small change to the tune and lowered the idle down just a touch.
One more thing, there is not much out there on the stock ECM like there was a couple decades ago when CFI was VERY hot subject, but if you dig for it, you may find the info you seek. The 82 stock tune was never fully hacked like the 84 was BTW.
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My idle speed right now is good for the cam that I run which is at 850rpm. Stock idle is lower, but higher than stock and the tune was created to take advantage of the slightly higher idle speed. Base timing is stock GM spec at 6* BTDC and FP needs to be 13psi to take full advantage of the tune and its full potentical.