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Old Dec 10, 2022 | 02:41 PM
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I’m going to sound like a really old man here, but may as well.

I was researching scanners to get for my 99 Vert and came across a history of OBD relating to Geotab.

In the narrative it mentions,
WWH-OBD stands for World Wide Harmonized on-board diagnostics. It is an international standard used for vehicle diagnostics, implemented by the United Nations as part of the Global Technical Regulations (GTR) mandate, which includes vehicle data monitoring such as emissions output and engine fault codes.

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Later on it mentions how even seat belt use can be monitored and logged.

I have the most “advanced” :-) of the C3’s with an 82 having one brick-sized, very slow computer running two injectors on (I think) four sensors (CTS, O2, Knock, MAP). No wifi, no network, completely stand-alone little box. My wristwatch has more capabilities. However, at least I know I can take an afternoon spin and no satellites are sending my emissions, speed, turns, starts/stops, GPS, and seat belt data to the United Nations monitors.

I am sure our cars will someday either be outright outlawed or will have to be retrofitted with some WWD-OBD at some point. Until then, appreciate it.

When your carb needs a new float, your diaphragm in the mechanical fuel pump is getting weak, your running rich (again), choke is stuck, just appreciate the anonymity we have when cruising that the next generation will likely never understand.

Rant over. For now.

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I am sure our cars will someday either be outright outlawed or will have to be retrofitted with some WWD-OBD at some point. Until then, appreciate it.
It ain't our cars we have to worry about. It's the microchip they'll probably want to install in humans!
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True, they do have the ability to monitor modern vehicles.
But oddly when one is stolen. They can't seem to find it unless you have fitted your own GPS tracker.
So I wonder just how well this monitoring system works and just who is looking at it.
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Originally Posted by DWAVette

I am sure our cars will someday either be outright outlawed or will have to be retrofitted with some WWD-OBD at some point. Until then, appreciate it.
It ain't our cars we have to worry about. It's the microchip they'll probably want to install in humans!
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Some do & can "but" want YOU to pay for the service. Like heated seats , remote start , self driving --- etc . Cha ching $$$$ !
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I was fixing a copier in Phila auto theft squad. They found a lojack going off in a scrap yard. Recent Yukon or such. Got there and it was crushed into a cube still broadcasting the lojack signal. I told em to tell the victim they found his car AND it now fits a lot better in city parking spaces.
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Originally Posted by DWAVette
I’m going to sound like a really old man here, but may as well.

I was researching scanners to get for my 99 Vert and came across a history of OBD relating to Geotab.

In the narrative it mentions,
WWH-OBD stands for World Wide Harmonized on-board diagnostics. It is an international standard used for vehicle diagnostics, implemented by the United Nations as part of the Global Technical Regulations (GTR) mandate, which includes vehicle data monitoring such as emissions output and engine fault codes.

End quote.
Later on it mentions how even seat belt use can be monitored and logged.

I have the most “advanced” :-) of the C3’s with an 82 having one brick-sized, very slow computer running two injectors on (I think) four sensors (CTS, O2, Knock, MAP). No wifi, no network, completely stand-alone little box. My wristwatch has more capabilities. However, at least I know I can take an afternoon spin and no satellites are sending my emissions, speed, turns, starts/stops, GPS, and seat belt data to the United Nations monitors.

I am sure our cars will someday either be outright outlawed or will have to be retrofitted with some WWD-OBD at some point. Until then, appreciate it.

When your carb needs a new float, your diaphragm in the mechanical fuel pump is getting weak, your running rich (again), choke is stuck, just appreciate the anonymity we have when cruising that the next generation will likely never understand.

Rant over. For now.
Good advice, anonymity is something to be cherished as it will soon be gone. Just wait till the FED introduces the CBDC on us next year -of course this is for your own "good" you see.
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Old Dec 10, 2022 | 07:39 PM
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Good advice, anonymity is something to be cherished as it will soon be gone. Just wait till the FED introduces the CBDC on us next year -of course this is for your own "good" you see.
Ok, you had me researching that now. You nailed it. Quote from the Fed website:

, a CBDC would be the safest digital asset available to the general public, with no associated credit or liquidity risk.”

How thoughtful of them. Like those arrogant ********* actually give a crap about your financial security. For the ones that do, quit nannying me. Give me a break.

All I can say, get a trade skill like carpentry, electrical, plumbing, auto repair, etc. when all your transactions, driving habits, medical information, …. are being watched, barter is going to be making a strong comeback into our economy. You better have something to trade with.

Incredible how sheeple just keep giving up personal freedom and liberty.

Are you happy? You made me rant again.

Damn, I think the FBI is knocking at my door. Crap.
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Lack of a computer is why I bought my car.
I was actually shopping for an early '80's pickup when I decided that I didn't need another pickup and that I should buy the Corvette I've always wanted.
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Before I bought my C3 I restored an 83 GMC, 4X4, short bed.
Everything was fine until I got into the engine and found the only way to keep it legal was to keep the oem smog engine type in it and all the oem smog equipment for California emissions.
It was a fun project that my son bought and he drove it for years.
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Originally Posted by 4-vettes
True, they do have the ability to monitor modern vehicles.
But oddly when one is stolen. They can't seem to find it unless you have fitted your own GPS tracker.
So I wonder just how well this monitoring system works and just who is looking at it.
I once went over to my local police station asking what they did about LoJack?

Not sure what equipment they have/had but they told me it is annoying and they just turn it off.
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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 12:38 AM
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The all-mechanical, no-computer aspect is one huge appealing aspect of my C3.

Our cell phones give away our location (my family uses Life 360 as well).

NO Alexa or whatever other open mike device is out there is in the house.
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And as a bonus, as long as you keep the points when the Chicoms EMP us, we can scavenge for food in style.
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And as a bonus, as long as you keep the points when the Chicoms EMP us, we can scavenge for food in style.
Dumpster diving never looked so cool as doing while standing on the hood of a 4-speed big block Chrome Bumper convertible!
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^^^ I like the theme, only post cars with points ignition ...



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Originally Posted by Varmintmist
Distributor in front of the carb? A Ford engine?
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could include some corvettes to then. A Aussie knock off kit car. Both pics. Pere?????

Just a general idea though.
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Originally Posted by Varmintmist
That's not a Corvette. It's an Australian Perentti, built on a Holden Tonner chassis.

https://madmax.fandom.com/wiki/Peren...2Buggy_no.9%22
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Old Dec 13, 2022 | 02:31 PM
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yes, check out the rear quarter window and the amount of quarter panel behind the door.
Doesn't explain the Ford-based engine. But I wouldn't argue with the pilot of that thing, though...
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