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Old Dec 15, 2023 | 11:45 PM
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GM says goodbye to a popular model after 57 years

The decision to end the production of the Camaro, Brad Franz, director of Chevrolet car and crossover marketing, told the Detroit News, was the result of an evaluation of the company's "portfolio offerings for progress toward our EV future and sales demand."
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Just make a new SUV and call it a Camaro, like Ford did with the Mustang.
Or a new 4 door sedan and call it a Z-28, like Dodge did with the Charger.
I'd rather see the marque dropped than bastardized like that.





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All good things must come to an end.
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For whatever reasons sales have nose dived
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Old Dec 16, 2023 | 02:26 AM
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So Chevrolet what was once the "Heartbeat of America" will be energized by a charging station.
Did he explain their plan for NASCAR while he was delivering this news?
Maybe that's not in their EV future too.
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Just make a new SUV and call it a Camaro, like Ford did with the Mustang.
Or a new 4 door sedan and call it a Z-28, like Dodge did with the Charger.
I'd rather see the marque dropped than bastardized like that.






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Sad day. I owned a 1994 Z28, a 2002 SS convertible, and a 2010 SS/RS, all 6 speed manuals. Loved every one of them. This last generation’s body style never caught my fancy, though all the reviews seemed to agree its was a great driving and performing car. If they are ever looking to bring back a retro look, I vote for the 1970-1973 split bumper look. What a beautiful car.

All that said, I bought my 1973 convertible L82 four-speed Corvette because I think it outshines them all.
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Old Dec 16, 2023 | 07:35 AM
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Furthur contributing to leaving the highways filled with exactly the same body shape and style....bland, boring and a sad demise of the car industry. Automotive body styling no longer exists....just one "blob" to meet some irrelvant / nonsense government requirement.
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Originally Posted by CorvettePassion
Further contributing to leaving the highways filled with exactly the same body shape and style....bland, boring and a sad demise of the car industry. Automotive body styling no longer exists....just one "blob" to meet some irrelevant / nonsense government requirement.
As a former "3 time F-body owner", I agree...................
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The name will be back as an EV. If GM makes it that far. Focusing on fewer and fewer cars with higher profits will mean their market share will continue to diminish.

GM should have restarted Pontiac as their EV brand. I'd buy a Firebird or a GTO EV. Can't get excited about a Blazer of any type.
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Well they ended Camaro production once before, about 20 years ago, as you guys should recall.
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Originally Posted by BKbroiler
Well they ended Camaro production once before, about 20 years ago, as you guys should recall.
8 Year hiatus...
I am sure the Camaro name will come back...
It may look like a Cyber Truck though...
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Old Dec 16, 2023 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg
I'd rather see the marque dropped than bastardized like that.
I agree...But the name is too valuable to drop and leave to history...
They will make it an EV / SUV or something...whatever...
But for right now, it is like a gut punch.
it feels like losing a brother...
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The Camaro has been canceled ....AGAIN. I'm not expecting it will come back. Chevrolet has given up on building cars. They won't have any car platforms to use to make them any time in the future.

I have a supercharged 2010 SS with a 6 speed stick for a daily driver. I should be set for now but if I ever need to replace it, I'm not sure what I would do. Just need to keep this one as long as possible.
Still have my '69 I have owned for almost 45 years so maybe I can just keep them both going.
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GM is spending nearly a $Billion on development of the Gen VI V8, but only for trucks and SUVs. The C10 will surely be an EV, or at best (worst!) a hybrid.

But we'll have used truck engines for years! You'll have to manual-swap them yourself, though, so hold on to those manual transmissions.

https://www.onallcylinders.com/2023/...ng-investment/
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On a flip side, GM may have created some classics to covet, and a market for original and repo parts
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Sorry it is going. I always liked the older 60’s and early 70’s models. However, none of the newer Camaros really attracted me.
It seems the last two generations of Mustang have really pulled a lot of the modern production Muscle Car crowd. You see a lot more Mustangs on the road than Camaros.
iMO, the last few models of Challenger-Mustang have been hard for GM to compete with.
Well, GM still has Corvette, so still king.
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Originally Posted by stingr69
The Camaro has been canceled ....AGAIN. I'm not expecting it will come back. Chevrolet has given up on building cars.
I think things will come around full circle and there will be a resurgence of cars and small trucks. Chevy seems to be selling quite a few Malibus and Ford is doing somewhat ok with their only car, the Mustang.
About 5 miles south of me is a small building with a big lot that used to be a restaurant and then a car rental place. It sat vacant until a few months ago when row after row of brand new Ford pickup trucks appeared, all top of the line Platinum, Lariats, King Ranch etc. (I've yet to see a single base XL or generic white contractor truck). They fill the entire lot and acres of grass property up to a wooded area.

About 7 miles east was a huge 70 year old restaurant/banquet hall that closed in 2015. The parking area is enormous and overnight the entire lot became filled with the same type of new high end Fords trucks packed in like sardines. That one has some large SUVs mixed in too.

I was thinking it might have had something to do the chip shortage, but after a bit of research, it appears the market for $80K to $100K luxury trucks has played out...the fad is gone. Search truck market and Google will autocomplete with collapse as the first choice.
Dealers have no room left on their lots and Ford is stuffing them anywhere they can. Reminds me of Harley Davidson being on top of the world and once the fad dropped, they're worth $5 a lb in scrap.

Now the funny part is, if you want to order a Ford Maverick in my area, you'll be lucky to get it by early Summer. Who woulda thunk an affordable useful truck is something people want? Want a F-150 XL to actually use as a truck? Good luck with that as the dealership will act like it doesn't exist, the sales guy won't want to deal with someone as "cheap" as you and it'll basically be a custom build sold for no lower than msrp.

I wonder how far the prices will drop on all those new (yet old) trucks that have been left baking in the sun for 1 or 2 years? This is also hail territory


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Originally Posted by DWAVette
Sorry it is going. I always liked the older 60’s and early 70’s models. However, none of the newer Camaros really attracted me.
It seems the last two generations of Mustang have really pulled a lot of the modern production Muscle Car crowd. You see a lot more Mustangs on the road than Camaros.
iMO, the last few models of Challenger-Mustang have been hard for GM to compete with.
Well, GM still has Corvette, so still king.
Friend of mine ended up with a Mustang GT, he wanted a Camaro but he said he didnt fit in the car. He's 6'3. Well, thats what he told me anyway.
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Originally Posted by 4-vettes
All good things must come to an end.
It hasn't been a "GOOD" thing for a long time. In my opinion the "CAMARO" went down hill in 1993 ended in 1992 The newest model is horrible & the sales or lack of are the result. The ugly 5th generation has been around basically unchanged for 18 yrs change it & it might sell better !!!
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