C3 General General C3 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Hard Signal Switch

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 2, 2024 | 06:40 PM
  #1  
Richard81's Avatar
Richard81
Thread Starter
Intermediate
10 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 25
Likes: 15
From: Red Deer Alberta
Default Hard Signal Switch

The turn signal switch on my 1980 Corvette seems too hard to push up or down to turn on my signal lights. Is this something that I can adjust by possibly bending tabs or lubricating the mechanism in the steering column? Or should I replace the turn signal switch assembly? Thanks in advance for your advice.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2024 | 07:36 PM
  #2  
4-vettes's Avatar
4-vettes
Race Director
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 13,068
Likes: 7,678
From: Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia
2025 C3 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2024 C3 of the Year Finalist- Modified
2022 C3 of the Year Finalist - Modified
Cruise-In VIII Veteran
Default

That switch is all plastic, nothing your going to bend. I would try lubricating it first. You will need some tools if you have a tilt/tele column.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2024 | 07:38 PM
  #3  
Richard81's Avatar
Richard81
Thread Starter
Intermediate
10 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 25
Likes: 15
From: Red Deer Alberta
Default

Originally Posted by 4-vettes
That switch is all plastic, nothing your going to bend. I would try lubricating it first. You will need some tools if you have a tilt/tele column.
Yup. I have a puller and the tool that compresses the spring so that the c-clip can be taken out. Thanks.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2024 | 09:06 PM
  #4  
4-vettes's Avatar
4-vettes
Race Director
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 13,068
Likes: 7,678
From: Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia
2025 C3 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2024 C3 of the Year Finalist- Modified
2022 C3 of the Year Finalist - Modified
Cruise-In VIII Veteran
Default

Sounds like your good tools wise. Pretty simple to get to the turn signal switch. Step one, get the horn bits out of the way. Then you are looking right at it.
Best of luck to you.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2024 | 09:14 PM
  #5  
doorgunner's Avatar
doorgunner
2026 Loser of the Year
Supporting Member
10 Year Member
Veteran: Army
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 36,487
Likes: 6,967
From: New Or-leens Loo-z-anna
Default

Can he use dielectric grease to lubricate the contacts and the moving parts after he cleans off the old grease?
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2024 | 09:43 PM
  #6  
4-vettes's Avatar
4-vettes
Race Director
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 13,068
Likes: 7,678
From: Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia
2025 C3 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2024 C3 of the Year Finalist- Modified
2022 C3 of the Year Finalist - Modified
Cruise-In VIII Veteran
Default

Suppose he could. I generally use a white petroleum jelly on these plastic switches.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2024 | 10:32 PM
  #7  
Richard81's Avatar
Richard81
Thread Starter
Intermediate
10 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 25
Likes: 15
From: Red Deer Alberta
Default

Thanks for all the advice so far. Dismantling the steering column to access the switch will be no problem. It's completely within my skill set and I have done it before.

I will attempt to clean and lube the parts and see if it gets the mechanism moving more freely, but I won't start on it for a while. I live in Canada and I intend to keep driving the car until the snow comes. That could be any time from next week to the middle of December. The signal switch will be one of 2 or 3 small projects on the car that I will take care of over the winter.

Replacement assemblies don't seem to be extremely expensive, so perhaps I could get some recomendations for suppliers of good quality ones, in case I don't get good results from my attempt to free it up.

Thanks.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2024 | 10:41 PM
  #8  
427SIXPACK's Avatar
427SIXPACK
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Community Influencer
Shutterbug
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 8,571
Likes: 1,847
From: LONG ISLAND
2025 C3 ('68-'73) of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2024 C3 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
2023 C3 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default

Originally Posted by Richard81
Thanks for all the advice so far. Dismantling the steering column to access the switch will be no problem. It's completely within my skill set and I have done it before.

I will attempt to clean and lube the parts and see if it gets the mechanism moving more freely, but I won't start on it for a while. I live in Canada and I intend to keep driving the car until the snow comes. That could be any time from next week to the middle of December. The signal switch will be one of 2 or 3 small projects on the car that I will take care of over the winter.

Replacement assemblies don't seem to be extremely expensive, so perhaps I could get some recomendations for suppliers of good quality ones, in case I don't get good results from my attempt to free it up.

Thanks.
I like Lectric Limited for most of my electric replacement parts. Knowledgeable, friendly, fair prices, excellent customer service & always have good stock.

CLICK HERE >>>> https://www.lectriclimited.com/
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-6

Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

7 Bolt-On Upgrades From Extreme Online Store to Level Up Your C6 Corvette

 Pouria Savadkouei
Old Nov 3, 2024 | 02:34 AM
  #9  
4-vettes's Avatar
4-vettes
Race Director
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 13,068
Likes: 7,678
From: Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia
2025 C3 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2024 C3 of the Year Finalist- Modified
2022 C3 of the Year Finalist - Modified
Cruise-In VIII Veteran
Default

Summit racing stocks a replacement switch as well.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2024 | 01:51 PM
  #10  
Richard81's Avatar
Richard81
Thread Starter
Intermediate
10 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 25
Likes: 15
From: Red Deer Alberta
Default

Originally Posted by 4-vettes
Summit racing stocks a replacement switch as well.
Yes. I actually have that one on my wish list with Summit.

Wonderng if anyone who has used the SMP-TW8 could chime in as to its "feel" for difficutly of switching. Does it go with the typical amount of force that one would expect for a turn signal switch?

Thanks.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2024 | 03:30 PM
  #11  
4-vettes's Avatar
4-vettes
Race Director
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 13,068
Likes: 7,678
From: Sunshine Coast, Queensland, Australia
2025 C3 of the Year Finalist - Modified
2024 C3 of the Year Finalist- Modified
2022 C3 of the Year Finalist - Modified
Cruise-In VIII Veteran
Default

Truthfully I haven't tryed that exact part number. I have used a number of standard motor products replacement parts. I have always found SMP parts to be about as close to factory original as any replacement parts I have used. And generally for a fair price.
Not certain if that helps you but I know I wouldn't have a problem using this part.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2024 | 02:46 PM
  #12  
RightyTighty's Avatar
RightyTighty
Advanced
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 74
Likes: 37
From: New Yawk
Default

I know what you mean. Mine is very difficult to use also. See this thread:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...nal-lever.html
answer #4 from Jim Shea. I tried the lubrication points he mentions, but it didn't make a difference for me. I don't know if its my particular switch or if this is just the way it is.
Good Luck
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2024 | 04:52 PM
  #13  
Richard81's Avatar
Richard81
Thread Starter
Intermediate
10 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 25
Likes: 15
From: Red Deer Alberta
Default

Originally Posted by RightyTighty
I know what you mean. Mine is very difficult to use also. See this thread:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...nal-lever.html
answer #4 from Jim Shea. I tried the lubrication points he mentions, but it didn't make a difference for me. I don't know if its my particular switch or if this is just the way it is.
Good Luck
That looks to be exactly the advice I am looking for. I'll give it a try. Thanks!
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2024 | 05:14 PM
  #14  
RightyTighty's Avatar
RightyTighty
Advanced
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 74
Likes: 37
From: New Yawk
Default

Also, pay attention to the orientation of the cancel cam when you take it apart. Its easy to put it back upside down which will cause the turn signal not to cancel after a turn.


Last edited by RightyTighty; Nov 7, 2024 at 09:54 AM. Reason: forgot 'down' after 'upside'
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2024 | 07:56 PM
  #15  
Richard81's Avatar
Richard81
Thread Starter
Intermediate
10 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 25
Likes: 15
From: Red Deer Alberta
Default

I did the job today. I found that the flat brass detente springs, the large main one and the smaller one alongside it, were catching quite hard against the plastic parts which they ride against. I cleaned off the old waxy grease and relubed them. They still clicked too hard for my tastes, so I got underneath the large one with bent needle nosed pliers and took some of the spring out of it by forcing it up and away from the plastic part. I did this with the other smaller detente spring also, but to a lesser extent. I cleaned and relubed the rest of the moving parts at their points of contact and reassembled. The signal switch now moves much more easily, almost too easily.

Edited a few days later: I had to take it apart again and put most of the springiness back into the two springs. I found that the feature where you slightly push the signal arm for a temporary signal during a lane change was not returning back to the off position and would sometimes stay on flashing, or even stay on with a solid light (not flashing). I think the larger of the springs was more important for this to work properly. So now I'm thinking that the cleaning and re-lubing was more imortant than the bending and I would recommend minimal bending of the springs, if any at all.

Thank you to everyone for your advice.

Last edited by Richard81; Nov 19, 2024 at 12:20 PM. Reason: Added more information.
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2024 | 08:29 PM
  #16  
interpon's Avatar
interpon
Le Mans Master
Supporting Member
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 7,624
Likes: 2,454
From: Indiana
Default

So do you think not messing with spring and relubing would be enough? Mine is hard to move as well.
Reply
Old Nov 14, 2024 | 08:42 PM
  #17  
Richard81's Avatar
Richard81
Thread Starter
Intermediate
10 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 25
Likes: 15
From: Red Deer Alberta
Default

Originally Posted by interpon
So do you think not messing with spring and relubing would be enough? Mine is hard to move as well.
I would do the cleaning and lubing first and then check it. If it is still hard, then tweak the spring a bit. I pulled mine a few times, and quite far the last time. If I could do it over again, I would not have pulled quite so hard the last time. (Note: I edited my previous post to describe how I had to go back in and undo most of the spring bending that I did)
Also, I found that I had to pull the same number of times with equal force on both sides if the V in the middle of the spring.
Good luck.

Last edited by Richard81; Nov 18, 2024 at 05:21 PM. Reason: New information
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Hard Signal Switch

Old Nov 14, 2024 | 09:42 PM
  #18  
Richard81's Avatar
Richard81
Thread Starter
Intermediate
10 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 25
Likes: 15
From: Red Deer Alberta
Default

Originally Posted by RightyTighty
I know what you mean. Mine is very difficult to use also. See this thread:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...nal-lever.html
answer #4 from Jim Shea. I tried the lubrication points he mentions, but it didn't make a difference for me. I don't know if its my particular switch or if this is just the way it is.
Good Luck
Not sure if you are following the thread to the end so I'm going to reply to this post.

I found that the flat brass detente springs, the large main one and the smaller one alongside it, were catching quite hard against the plastic parts wiich they ride against. I cleaned off the old waxy grease and relubed them. They still clicked too hard for my tastes, so I got underneath the large one with bent needle nosed pliers and took some of the spring out of it by forcing it up and away from the plastic part. I found that I had to do this an equal number of times with the same amount of force on both sides of the V in the detente spring. I did this with the olther smaller detente spring also, but to a lesser extent. I cleaned and relubed the rest of the moving parts at their points of contact and reassembled. The signal switch now moves much more easily.
Reply
Old Nov 15, 2024 | 09:46 AM
  #19  
RightyTighty's Avatar
RightyTighty
Advanced
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 74
Likes: 37
From: New Yawk
Default

Richard81
I am subscribed to this thread but thanks for double checking. Glad to hear it worked out for ya. I have gotten so much help from the users in this forum, it feels good to be able to give back. I"ll give my springs a tweak next spring. Gettin cold here.
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2024 | 05:25 PM
  #20  
Richard81's Avatar
Richard81
Thread Starter
Intermediate
10 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 25
Likes: 15
From: Red Deer Alberta
Default

Originally Posted by RightyTighty
Richard81
I am subscribed to this thread but thanks for double checking. Glad to hear it worked out for ya. I have gotten so much help from the users in this forum, it feels good to be able to give back. I"ll give my springs a tweak next spring. Gettin cold here.
Getting cold here too! Not sure if you checked where I live....Alberta, Canada.

You probably noticed I edited my previous posts. Cleaning and lubing more important than bending. Good luck next Spring.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:38 PM.

story-0
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-20 17:58:41


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-2
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

Slideshow: 10 things C8 Corvette owners hate, but won't tell you.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-01 18:36:07


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

Slideshow: Should you add one of these incredible Corvettes to your garage?

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-01 18:14:05


VIEW MORE
story-6
Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

Slideshow: Every Corvette Grand Sport explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-26 07:13:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

Slideshow: Breaking down the 2027 Grand Sport, Grand Sport X, Stingray, and LS6 V8.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-26 13:48:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

Slideshow: 5 reasons bad drivers crash sports cars & 5 ways to avoid a costly shame!

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-25 16:32:55


VIEW MORE
story-9
7 Bolt-On Upgrades From Extreme Online Store to Level Up Your C6 Corvette

Slideshow: Check out these easy-to-install upgrades from Extreme Online Store that reshape the look and feel of the C6 Corvette.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-03-23 17:00:27


VIEW MORE