Hooker Sidepipes: Power Killer?
Burning Brakes
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From: shawnee ks
Originally Posted by Tom454
Do the Stahls require notching of the fiberglass and/or rocker panel like the Hookers do??
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From: eville in
Originally Posted by 442olds
http://www.et-motorsports.cc/project...aust/index.htm
Here's some pics of the stahls. They fit pretty decent. I ordered them partially assembled to save a little money.
Here's some pics of the stahls. They fit pretty decent. I ordered them partially assembled to save a little money.
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From: Not Correctly Restored Stingray Fla.
Originally Posted by big632
The best sidepipe header is the stahl system. The hookers have too long of runners but will make power above 3000plus,loose a little gain a little. The stahls will make more power everywhere. I like the look of the hookers but with my new exhaust fabbed stahl and my own sidepipes for what I needed.
Definitly my next $1000+ project.....STAHL HEADERS & SIDEPIPES
Of course without mufflers.
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From: WI
Jere Stahl builds race headers, Hooker used to build Corvette race headers (totally different, I have a set)... what you all have are Hooker street headers.....My Hookers have a 1-7/8 primary tube (reversion plate) with a 3-1/2 collector.......My next set will be a stepped header, probably 1-3/4 stepped to 1-7/8...with a 3-1/2 collector.
...redvetracr
PS: The headers used on the L-88 race cars at LeMans, Daytona, Sebring etc. were Kustom (brand) headers with a backward "K"...you don`t even want to know what those are worth...
...redvetracr
PS: The headers used on the L-88 race cars at LeMans, Daytona, Sebring etc. were Kustom (brand) headers with a backward "K"...you don`t even want to know what those are worth...
Last edited by redvetracr; Jan 31, 2005 at 04:56 PM.
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Melting Slicks
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From: San Jose California
The Hooker Sidepipes will produce excellent power with a big block. The key is the muffler. As has been said earlier, the JCL's are the best I have found. I made 483 rear wheel horsepower with open headers and only lost 6 hp with the JCL's (uncapped center pipe).
If you go to my sig and click on the url, you can see the dyno printout with and without the mufflers for my L88 clone. I do miss that car!
Chuck
If you go to my sig and click on the url, you can see the dyno printout with and without the mufflers for my L88 clone. I do miss that car!
Chuck
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From: Not Correctly Restored Stingray Fla.
WOOOOOHOOOOOOO !!!!!!! I just sent off $1125 to STAHL for my new headers and sidepipes (pay in advance with MO or cash. check, get $50 off & NC shipping). Sold my Hookers that are black ceramic coated for $600. Can't go wrong..... $525 for 2-3 tenths in the 1/4 mile. 
Just finished installing some Crane Shaft Mounted Rocker Arms. Who knows....with a set of "skinnies" on the front and some cool weather, Maybe I'll see 11.1s or even 11.0s
Just finished installing some Crane Shaft Mounted Rocker Arms. Who knows....with a set of "skinnies" on the front and some cool weather, Maybe I'll see 11.1s or even 11.0s
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From: Not Correctly Restored Stingray Fla.
Originally Posted by djcwardog
Those Stahls look awesome.
I put Hookers on the car not long after getting the car all together ('round '90-'91). I have just heard of these Stahl headers, I've heard of the company long time ago but did not know they have sidepipes (that actually make horsepower over Hooker). In my case I can not remember the last time I bolted on "maintance-free" horsepower for under $550. I am not expecting the "3 tenths gain" that has been told by a reliable source, so I should be very pleased with the improvement I do get. This is just more valuable info I have gotten from The Forum.
Thanks
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From: Not Correctly Restored Stingray Fla.
Originally Posted by mlub
will these Stahls discolor with heat....if so do they offer a coating? where can you order these online?
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From: Who says "Nothing is impossible" ? I've been doing nothing for years.
Holy shnit their undercar headers painted finish are $1100 Hooker SuperComps painted are $350
I wish I could find a set of headers with 1 7/8 in. or bigger primaries, anyone know a company besides Stahl that makes them ?
Hooker SuperComps painted are $350 I wish I could find a set of headers with 1 7/8 in. or bigger primaries, anyone know a company besides Stahl that makes them ?
Last edited by MotorHead; Feb 4, 2005 at 12:52 PM.
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Holy shnit their undercar headers painted finish are $1100 Hooker SuperComps painted are $350
I wish I could find a set of headers with 1 7/8 in. or bigger primaries, anyine know a company besides Stahl that make them ?
Hooker SuperComps painted are $350 I wish I could find a set of headers with 1 7/8 in. or bigger primaries, anyine know a company besides Stahl that make them ?
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From: Not Correctly Restored Stingray Fla.
Originally Posted by MotorHead
Holy shnit their undercar headers painted finish are $1100 Hooker SuperComps painted are $350
I wish I could find a set of headers with 1 7/8 in. or bigger primaries, anyone know a company besides Stahl that makes them ?
Hooker SuperComps painted are $350 I wish I could find a set of headers with 1 7/8 in. or bigger primaries, anyone know a company besides Stahl that makes them ?
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From: Who says "Nothing is impossible" ? I've been doing nothing for years.
$1075 for 1 3/4 - 2 in primaries. If I got the 1 3/4 in. Stahls would I see a $725 performance difference over the $350 1 3/4 in. Hookers ? I could get three sets of Hookers for that price. I know the Stahls are good headers and probably the best but how many HP am I going to gain over the same size Hookers 3HP-5HP for $725 ? Does not add up to me
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From: shawnee ks
Originally Posted by djcwardog
Those Stahls look awesome. One of the photos has a boot under the car...?