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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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In the past I have used jackstands under the front frame rails ahead of the tires as a precaution in case my floor jacks positioned at the jacking points in front of the doors failed. I've never lowered the car fully onto the stands. Would it be safe to support the entire weight of the front end (big block) on the front frame rails ? I need to replace all of the power steering components and I'd like to start the car with the front end off of the ground. Figure it would be easier and safer with it resting on the stands.

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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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If you ever saw a floor jack collapse, you'd never get under a car with a floor jack holding it up. The jack stands go in front of the rear wheels, about where the frame kicks up. The front set goes behind the front wheels, about where the frame rail turns toward the center of the car.
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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I tend to use both myself. I place the stands where Mack describes... and then use a jack as a backup. Good for peace of mind....
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Chumpzilla
I tend to use both myself. I place the stands where Mack describes... and then use a jack as a backup. Good for peace of mind....


--can't be safe enough--specially for those of us who have a tendency to work alone in the garage.

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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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Agree - put the weight on the jack stands and use a jack as a backup with just very slight preload but not enough to take weight off the stands.
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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I have a big-block convertible. I put the jackstands on the front frame horns - actually rest the car on the front sway bar bushing caps. I get a lot less body flex that way.
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 01:37 PM
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I wish there was somewhere to use jackstands or jack on the rear other than in front of the rear tires on frame. Somewhere like on the trailing arm or something. oh well, I just don't like when I let it down, the rear end is high, and the tires are too far inboard, until you pull it forward or back. I guess there really is no purpose for my post!
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ruby76
I wish there was somewhere to use jackstands or jack on the rear other than in front of the rear tires on frame.
I've heard that some jack under the rear spring mount. It makes sense, since that's what carries the car anyway. There's probably pipes in the way, so some sort of adapter is needed. It may not be the smartest place to put the jackstands, though, and you'll still have the tire situation after putting it back on the ground until you roll the car some.
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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I heard that the front frame horns weren't strong enough, and jacking on them over time will cause them to bend some. I wonder if this is true.

I put my jack stands where the shop manual indicates, but with one just behind the door and the other forward of that just befor the frame starts to turn upward. But IMO I don't think this gives a stable enough support. The jacks aren't far enough apart, I was thinking of welding some jack stand pirches on a bit farther farward.
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The manual I have for my '82 shows the 4 normal points, but also says the ends of the frame at the front are OK as jack points.
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Old Mar 3, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 82Vette'ster
I heard that the front frame horns weren't strong enough, and jacking on them over time will cause them to bend some.
I don't jack on the front frame horns. I actually use the front crossmember to raise the car off the ground in the front. There's a long piece of wood involved there too.
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Thanks for your help guys. Now if they'd just make an affordable shop lift to hoist the entire car there would be no questions ..
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Thanks for your help guys. Now if they'd just make an affordable shop lift to hoist the entire car there would be no questions ..
yeah, but I want one that can be both drive on (car sitting on it's own suspension) and one that lets the suspension hang. You know, depending on what type of work I want to do. Now THAT would be a good lift. I have seen drive ons that have a "jack tray" to let you lift a tire or two off the lift. If you want something, you might as well want it ALL.
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I have my car jacked up in front now. The stands are about 5" in front of the door. With the stands put there I bet I could almost lift the rear end of the car off the floor with my bare hands. I can push on the front of the car and the rear comes up and down (body not tires). I think its really close the the CG.
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how do you lower the car from the floor jack to the jack stands? mine releases so quickly once you release the pressure, i'm afraid the stands would go through the frame. any hints?
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Originally Posted by vette_newb
how do you lower the car from the floor jack to the jack stands? mine releases so quickly once you release the pressure, i'm afraid the stands would go through the frame. any hints?
Had the same problem, cheap floor jack. Try drilling a hole though the handle and put a samll screw driver through it to allow fine control of opening the valve.

Also, I use a piece of thin plywood as a crush layer on the jack to keep it from dinging up the frame.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mayberg
I have a big-block convertible. I put the jackstands on the front frame horns - actually rest the car on the front sway bar bushing caps. I get a lot less body flex that way.

Me 2.

My car is Yellow and it already looks like a bananna anyways.
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