We have a problem, advice or sympathy!!!!
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Instructor
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From: Huntington Beach CA
We have a problem, advice or sympathy!!!!
Today I decided to give my recently purchased C3 an oil change, the first I'd ever given it.
Emptied the engine of oil....
Tried to remove the filter by hand..hmm a little tight!
Tried to remove the filter using one of those tools that grip it..nope, it just sliped and squashed the filter
Hammered a screwdriver through it as a last resort.....nope
3 hours later al that's left of the filter is the top that screws into the block!
Am I being stupid, it does unscrew in an anticlockwise direction doesn't it?
How the hell am I going to remove it? I have no ramp so am working under a car on stands - not a lot of leverage but it's worked for all my other cars!
Any advice would be great!!!!!!
Emptied the engine of oil....
Tried to remove the filter by hand..hmm a little tight!
Tried to remove the filter using one of those tools that grip it..nope, it just sliped and squashed the filter
Hammered a screwdriver through it as a last resort.....nope
3 hours later al that's left of the filter is the top that screws into the block!
Am I being stupid, it does unscrew in an anticlockwise direction doesn't it?
How the hell am I going to remove it? I have no ramp so am working under a car on stands - not a lot of leverage but it's worked for all my other cars!
Any advice would be great!!!!!!
Melting Slicks
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From: OKC Oklahoma
In the future, use an oil filter wrench. As for right now, all I can suggest is that you use the screwdriver to try to twist it or dig into it and tap on it with a hammer to see if it loosens up. Counter-clockwise is the correct direction.
Burning Brakes
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From: Atoka, TN
try to grab whats left with channel locks or keep tearing the filter apart until you get to the ring that screws onto the block, then take a hammer and screw driver and beat it off.
righty tighty, lefty loosey
chris
righty tighty, lefty loosey
chris
Burning Brakes
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From: Texas
Someome here put up a pic of a tool (don't know if it was store bought or homemade)........basically a spanner wrench. I believe it was a flat bar with 2 dowel pins that would hook 2 opposite holes in the filter plate. Looked like it would be just what you need.
Burning Brakes
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From: roanoke va
check to make sure you dont have a bell houseing bolt in thats is too long and hitting the filter base. i have seen it happen before. try to use a long punch with a hammer and place it in the holes and go counter clockwise. besure to wear eye protection. when you have it removed be sure to check for burrs in the filter base and loose pieces of metal.
Burning Brakes
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From: Ft.Worth Texas
If you are laying on your back looking up at the bottom of the filter put your punch on 8 o'clock and try to move 8 o'clock to 11 o'clock.
I hope to not make anyone mad by oversimplifing but sometimes doing things upside down can be a bit confusing. Good luck.
I hope to not make anyone mad by oversimplifing but sometimes doing things upside down can be a bit confusing. Good luck.
Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '03,'11
Originally Posted by David Ey
If you are laying on your back looking up at the bottom of the filter put your punch on 8 o'clock and try to move 8 o'clock to 11 o'clock.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Space Coast Gator Territory
A neighbor's son had this problem where buddies at the garage he worked at tightened his filter on purpose to give him grief. I happened by while he was frustrated in his inability to remove the filter during an oil change. He had the filter all broken down to just the threaded base just as you. I got it off with a few wacks using a long chizel on what was left of the base. First, make a few taps to seat the chizel and keep it on the filter base and off the mount. Once you make it a seat a couple smart wacks with a hammer should break it loose. You understand the chizel is at an angle while striking and you turn the filter counter clockwise as you face it from underneith. You will need to put the car on jack stands to get enough room to swing the hammer. An air chizel might also work in similar fashion if you have a tool with a narrow business end that will stay on the filter base. You need to be careful in the process and not damage anything. It will come off, it is just testing your will.
Race Director
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You need my tools 
Have someone fab something like that up..I have 2 diff sizes...but it'll be expsnsive to ship or I would have sent them as a loaner. You could try having someone fab one up, they're not that hard to make.
Have someone fab something like that up..I have 2 diff sizes...but it'll be expsnsive to ship or I would have sent them as a loaner. You could try having someone fab one up, they're not that hard to make.
Burning Brakes
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From: Nederland Texas
Originally Posted by turtlevette
if you can see the 2 bolts that hold the oil filter adapter on go ahead and take them out. The adapter and fliter will drop out and you can deal with it on the bench.
Race Director
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From: Smalltownville Michigan
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St. Jude Donor '09
I have one of the 3 jaw gear drive ones sold by the snap on guy for the filters that I cant break free by hand...works like a champ
Burning Brakes
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From: "Too Low, Too Fast, Too Loud" TX
Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
You need my tools
Have someone fab something like that up..I have 2 diff sizes...but it'll be expsnsive to ship or I would have sent them as a loaner. You could try having someone fab one up, they're not that hard to make.
Have someone fab something like that up..I have 2 diff sizes...but it'll be expsnsive to ship or I would have sent them as a loaner. You could try having someone fab one up, they're not that hard to make.
Damn...now Norval has TT punching holes into stuff..great!
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From: Waterloo ontario Canada
Originally Posted by wills670
check to make sure you dont have a bell houseing bolt in thats is too long and hitting the filter base. i have seen it happen before. try to use a long punch with a hammer and place it in the holes and go counter clockwise. besure to wear eye protection. when you have it removed be sure to check for burrs in the filter base and loose pieces of metal.
If not a chissel usually takes them off with a few good hits.
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From: Huntington Beach CA
Originally Posted by turtlevette
if you can see the 2 bolts that hold the oil filter adapter on go ahead and take them out. The adapter and fliter will drop out and you can deal with it on the bench.
I can see a hex bolt above, on the side of the block, is this one of them?
I'm really struggling with this, even a chisel isn't moving it. I have a feeling the previous person put it one and cross threaded it.... it's looking like the car will have to be towed to a local garage and I'm going to have to pay someone to do this.....
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From: San Diego - Deep Within The State of CONFUSION!
Originally Posted by turtlevette
if you can see the 2 bolts that hold the oil filter adapter on go ahead and take them out. The adapter and fliter will drop out and you can deal with it on the bench.
Burning Brakes
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From: Grants Pass Oregon
Cross Thread
All I can do realy is suggest one more thing and its dangerous. I've only done this once so procede at your own risk. An old Ford truck had a cross threaded filter and we had broken it down just like yours. What we ended up doing was tack welding a bolt head to the inside of the thread pipe left in the block. Then a buddy heated the thread pipe with a cherry blossom torch and I unscrewed the offending pipe thread. A lot of work but the heat shrank the metal and released the darn thing. When we went back in with a new filter we used a new thread pipe and then used antisieze on the inside threads of the filter..Wheew, was a long time ago. 
Mind now disconect the gas line and make sure there are no gas fumes any where...oil burns too.
Mind now disconect the gas line and make sure there are no gas fumes any where...oil burns too.