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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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Where can I find a starter heat shield? I've tried all the local auto parts stores and looked through several Corvette vendor catalogs. I can't find anything but the little metallic blanket. I've never used one of those nor do I know anyone who has.

When I run the car for an extended period of time of sit at idle and then shut the car off, I have a very hard time starting it again. I believe the problem to be the starter getting too hot and creating too much resisitance for the battery when trying to start. Is that correct or do I have a different problem.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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It sounds like the same problem I was having and ya the heat
shield fixed the problem up nicely.

The problem is that the exhaust pipe runs right over the starter and after along period of use or just on a really hot day the heat fries out the starter.

I found my heat shield form my local Corvette Spec shop and as I remember it the shield was really cheap and really easy to get on.

Best of Luck to you

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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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Summit has generic ones...
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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Dr. Rebuild in Bridgeport Connecticut is where I bought mine for my 68.
His web site is docrebuild.com
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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Summit or Jegs. Moroso starter shield is the one I have. About $35.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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Didn't even think about Summit or Jegs. Thanks.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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I have a Moroso heat shield like this from Jegs.
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...34&prmenbr=361
Hardly used. You can have it for $10.00 shipped. Let me know if you want a pic.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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Sonfa....
10 minutes earlier and I would have bought it from you. I literally made my last post then ordered one from Summit.

Oh well. Thanks anyways.
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Also check your grounding. I had the typical problem too, but one of the additonal issues along with heat was poor grounding to the starter. Changed the starter and later the problem came back, put in a shield and later the problem came back, Once I fixed the grounding with and extra strap the problem stayed away and has never returned.

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Sonfa....
10 minutes earlier and I would have bought it from you. I literally made my last post then ordered one from Summit.

Oh well. Thanks anyways.


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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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I have the Moroso shield on one of my cars. Added the Ford solenoid thingy too. Never had a problem after adding one of those.

-Mark.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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I will put my new headers before i put my vette on the road in a month or so. Do i need a heat shield because i had headers on my '78 Z28 and never had any problem with my starter and i had no heat shield. Is a vette is so different that it will fry the starter.
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I couldn't tell you for sure if you have to have one. But you could always consider it cheap insurance for your starter. Especially since you will have the exhaust out of the way and can get in there easier.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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Guys Guys Guys.....Napa
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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Napa didn't have 'em. I tried.

You can also cross Advanced Auto Parts, Auto Zone, O'Reilly's and Carquest off the list.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 12:06 AM
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Default JC Whitney sb Chevy starter shield for $20. Yes I liked it the best.

Well when when your done wasting time with that Moroso aluminum thing like i did u can just go to JC Whitney on line and get the same shield i'm using for $20. I tried both the Summit shield which just didn't bolt up to my starter and the Moroso aluminum sandwich thing that banged into my headers and wouldn't fit. But i liked that thick JC Whitney shield that fit the contours of my starter nicely and provided some air space between shield and starter. Now it too had to be moded and u can see this on my pix at cardomain - http://members.cardomain.com/cardo0 (this address should be in my profile too). U can look through my pix and see/read my failed attemp at my Chevy mini-starter install too. Anyways i made 2 cuts with a hack saw and bent over some of the shield (JC Whitney) metal to cover more of starter end - and had to work with the shield a bit to get it tight without touching the starter anywhere. Now i have an starter shielded not only from headers but with an airspace between shield and starter with only 2 bolts connected to starter that can transfer heat.
I can see that since ur an electrician that makes his living wiring things u don't buy that remote soleniod as a fix - niether do i but there are advantages and a remote soleniod can help somewhat. But the real cause is heat and the wraps (shields) don't provide any airspace and most others don't fit well enough.
Don't forget to install the stock starter brace as mine was missing and this can cause additional problems without it. Also now is a good time to repair any starter cable cracks with big butt heat shrink and some of that woven insulation sock material is a good idea i wish i had thought of when the starter was off. But i did install a quick disconnect connector to all the starter wiring and covered that with one of those spark plug boot socks and tucked it all behind my JC Whitney heat shield.
But hey if ur not running headers and still using the stock ram exh manifolds why not try the stock sb heat shield - mine was missing - as that was what the car was sold with and may be what ur missing/need. Or even step up to the BB heat shield as it should fit the sb too but covers much more solenoid and starter area.
Good luck and post ur results. cardo0
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by den(thevetteman)78
I will put my new headers before i put my vette on the road in a month or so. Do i need a heat shield because i had headers on my '78 Z28 and never had any problem with my starter and i had no heat shield. Is a vette is so different that it will fry the starter.
YES!!! I fitted Headers on mine & a short while later it refused to start after a long run. "Click" Nothing I had a look at the starter & saw there was smoke drifting out of it. Not only had the headers cooked it, the heat had obviously melted some of the insulation on the windings so that the next time I tried to start it the whole lot shorted out inside & the result was one knackered starter. This really isn't funny with an auto. The next starter (stock as a mini starter would take ages to get hold of here & I really needed to get the car moved asap) I fitted with a heat shield (Mr Gasket???). It was a real pita to get the shield on, but a few cuts & bends eventually got it in place. It was one of those sandwich types & a big tip is to disconnect the battery prior to fitting, which is obvious, but not so obvious is to check that none of the live terminals are shorted to earth on the shield b4 you reconnect the battery (the spark when you touch the battery terminal to the battery really brings you out of the relieved & relaxed state you'll be in after finally getting that shield on & setting the clearance between the starter & flexplate). Things are really tight behind the shield, but bending it away from the starter to give a nice air gap can be done without losing too much blood & skin. Doing it without losing your temper is the challenge
Since the shield has been fitted the car can sit in traffic on the hottest day, it can roast the occupants & blister the paint on its heads, but the starter will still spin the motor even only 10 secs after it was shut down.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:08 AM
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I installed a metallic starter wrap on mine 7 yrs ago. I run stainless headers and 'knock on wood', have had no problems since. I had to drop the headers to remove the starter and reinstall, but having the unit on the bench made wrapping the starter nice and snug was real easy. Then up she goes, bolt her in, new header gasket and fire it up.
I am impressed, and don't need to be stuck 100 miles from home on a 100 degree day with a wife in b**ch mode again...*S
Mike
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