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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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I bought a 'rebuilt' Muncie that looks pretty on the outside. How can I tell it is really new (and done right) on the inside? What are the telltale signs of being just rebuilt?

I'd hate to put this in the car and have it go south on me...
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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George,
Look at the countershaft hole for oil leaks or egg shape. Look at the bearing retainer - it should be smooth and have no ridges where the throw out bearing ride. Pull the sid ecover off and check the teeth for chips or even missing teeth. Look real close at the syncro smll teeth and the mating small teeth on the gear. This is where they wear and break from abuse. Look at the brass shifting forks, the wear pattern should be on the tips not a full 180* form tip to tip. If in doubt buy a good rebuilt kit and change out the bearings,syncros,and small parts. The video that Paul at 5 speeds sells is worth it to go over the tranny because he does it with just plain hand tools.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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Gary-

Thanks for the tips. Is there anything you don't know about these cars?
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Originally Posted by gtr1999
George,
The video that Paul at 5 speeds sells is worth it to go over the tranny because he does it with just plain hand tools.
Gary
Got a link to that video, Gary? I just swapped my M21 for a TKO, and although it worked fine (mechanically) when I pulled it, it leaks from every orifice. Whether I keep it or sell it, It needs freshening up before it goes back into service. I read through the rebuild procedure in the Haynes Manual and thought "I don't think so", but if a hand tools approach with video exists, I'd be tempted to do it just for the experience.

BTW, thanks again for the help with the pinion yoke nut setup awhile back, so far so good, I have no leaks and no noises from the rear end.

-Roy
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George - there's plenty for me to learn still Glad to help.

Roy- go to www.5speeds.com they'll list out parts and the video. Paul is a good guy and sells quality parts. I bough Muncie and ST-10 kits from him as well as other parts. First class operation.
Glad the differential is working out for you,good job

Gary
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Here is another video.
"Highly detailed, descriptive, step-by-step instruction guide using common tools and techniques describing every detail to disassemble/reassemble the Muncie transmission. Supplemented with Misc. Technical Data, Assembly Picture, Diagram, Part Descriptions, Diagnostics, Rebuild part kit sources. Rebuild shops charge minimum $250 labor, plus parts. Average complete rebuild kit cost $155, if needed. May just need $12 synchronizer. Save money and have the satisfaction of doing it yourself. If you want to be entertained buy a video. If you want to professionally rebuild your Muncie buy EasyStep. Send flat rate $25. Payment, shipping included (USA), to Larry Low/JLL Racing, 1800 The Byway, Woodstock, Georgia, 30189."

This is a NCRS member.
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Originally Posted by gtr1999
George,
The video that Paul at 5 speeds sells is worth it to go over the tranny because he does it with just plain hand tools.
Gary
I used Paul's tape when rebuilding my M-20. Can't beat it!

I especially liked it when he blew his nose into a shop rag.
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