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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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I was thinking of fabricating some exhaust dumps on my current exhaust set up. Basically for when I go to the track this summer until I get hooker side pipes. Has anyone made these on their own vette? Any pics or advice? How hard would they to fabricate from an existing system?

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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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Hey Danboback, I just had a set of 3" dumps made for my car. I think they were $30 for the pair. I can get some pics for you if you like.

I am going to try them at the track this weekend along with 2 other exhaust systems.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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I would love to see any pics that you have a the set up. This is really going to be my first self fabrication product, I figured I might as well do it on something I am going to replace anyway! Where did you get the dumps at?
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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In an almost related topic, is it possible to screw up your valves by not having enough back pressure? Some guy told me that if I put the dumps to close to the manifolds that it will cause a suction of air into the heads and screw up the valves. Does anyone know if there is any truth to these comments?

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The lack of backpressure will have no effect on the exhaust valves, what they are referring to is when the exhaust valve is cooled too fast by something like a draft up the exhaust when the motor is shut down. One thing you can do is get something to put in the dump when the motor is shut down to keep that draft out.
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 12:50 AM
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thanks for the reassurance! I think this weekend I am going to pull out the welder and see what I come up with!
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I just recently saw a 69 small block vette with electric cutouts on it. Those would be ideal for your dumps. Just flip a switch and you are "race ready".
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I have seen those myself, a little bit expensive at $180. Maybe if I was planning on keeping the undercar set up for a while. But within the next two years I am planning on getting Hooker side exit headers and side pipes.
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In an almost related topic, is it possible to screw up your valves by not having enough back pressure? Some guy told me that if I put the dumps to close to the manifolds that it will cause a suction of air into the heads and screw up the valves. Does anyone know if there is any truth to these comments?

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I've heard the same comment years ago as well. After reading David Vizzard's book I understand it a little better. It's not necessarily the back pressure but the exhaust gas velocity you need to worry about. The exhaust gasses rushing out of the cylinder have what's known as a scavenging affect on the cylinder, drawing in a fresh charge of air/fuel, even more so than the intake stroke itself. SO, if the exhaust pipes are too big, the exhaust gasses cool, making them more dense and harder too flow out, reducing velocity. Of course with dumps, as long as the headers are sized appropriately, they will only help.
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Thanks for your help. What is the name of David Vizzard's book?
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He has a few but that one was "How to Max Performance Chevy Small Blocks on a budget"


Oh, and I messed up his name: It should be spelled "Vizard"
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I have cutouts right behind the front wheels. The sidepipes make a 90 degree turn there.

I made a nice chrome cover and have three bolts holding it on.
The side cover is cut back to uncover the cutout.

It works great, they come off in about 2 minutes...
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I have cutouts right behind the front wheels. The sidepipes make a 90 degree turn there.

I made a nice chrome cover and have three bolts holding it on.
The side cover is cut back to uncover the cutout.

It works great, they come off in about 2 minutes...
I would really like to see a pic of that if I could!!
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Originally Posted by danboback
I would really like to see a pic of that if I could!!
Here's a pic before the cover was chromed and the side cover was painted.

I forgot to mention the best parts;
1. no crawing under the car to open them up.
2. At car shows if you rev the engine it will blow a skirt up....

The burnt paint is from welding, not from the cutouts



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talk about innovative! This is really cool stuff there, I hope mine turns out half that good!
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I have headers that connect to my stock Y-pipe. I had a cut out welded in front of the rear axle. The exhaust dumping under the car was rattling my brain so I had the muffler shop weld up an extension to route the exhaust out from under the left side of the car. I call it my "NASCAR PIPE". Now I can cap the cut out- really quiet, run with the NASACAR pipe -loud, or run open- really loud. Since these pictures, I built a sheet metal baffle for the inside of the pipe which cuts down on the "raspiness".

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That is just plain cool!
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I finally got a set of dumps, I ended up buying a set instead of making them. I'll probably put them on this weekend!
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You said dump.

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