Anyone here using a turtle?
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First time I have ever heard of such turtles. I think I would be scared off by the warning at the bottom of the page unless you had a brand new intake. It would probably be bad things if one of them ever got loose.
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Originally Posted by Eddie 70
First time I have ever heard of such turtles. I think I would be scared off by the warning at the bottom of the page unless you had a brand new intake. It would probably be bad things if one of them ever got loose.
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Very popular item about 12-15 years ago when people were bench flowing victor jr single plane intake manifolds.
That's One of the reasons why I have stayed away from Edelbrock intakes. Very poor fuel distribution and flow rate between individual cylinder runners. People spent lots of man hours epoxying in "turtles in the bottom of the plenum to adjust the flow.
That's One of the reasons why I have stayed away from Edelbrock intakes. Very poor fuel distribution and flow rate between individual cylinder runners. People spent lots of man hours epoxying in "turtles in the bottom of the plenum to adjust the flow.
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Hmmm...isn't that like the gizmo that goes inside the air cleaner...Tornado something-or-other? Causes the air to whirl around like a tornado. Let me check my Popeil catalog. Think it's right next to the Pocket Fisherman. 
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I would NEVER put my Turtles in a Corvette engine for two reasons:
They're shaped like bathtub Porsches and run about the same speed as a Porsche! (Because of these facts, the larger one is actually named Porsche!)
They're shaped like bathtub Porsches and run about the same speed as a Porsche! (Because of these facts, the larger one is actually named Porsche!)
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St. Jude Donor '05-'07
Originally Posted by CGGorman
Dep, behave. This is BRODIX we're talking about...
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INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS - VERY IMPORTANT
Manifold and insert must be absolutely free of contaminants such as fuel, oil, etc. A good degreaser/cleaner should be used before installation.
WARNING:
If mating parts are not absolutely clean and free of contaminants, insert could become dislodged.
I guess gkull verified this with the epoxy thing but damn the way they made it sound I was wondering if it was going to disolve if fuel touched it. Or maybe it would erupt, it does kind of look like a volcano. I might get one of these and mount the tornado directly on top of it. I will also direct two of my fogger nozzles so they will help the tornado spin a little faster. Hell man I would have a nitrous driven, tornado spinnin turtle port injected bad *****' RMAOL
I might even get a patent on it; think I'll call it the "Petite Obscure Supercharger" or POS for short. On top of that I will get either the OxyClean guy or the Gazelle guy to market it for me!!!!!! 
What do ya think?
Manifold and insert must be absolutely free of contaminants such as fuel, oil, etc. A good degreaser/cleaner should be used before installation.
WARNING:
If mating parts are not absolutely clean and free of contaminants, insert could become dislodged.
I guess gkull verified this with the epoxy thing but damn the way they made it sound I was wondering if it was going to disolve if fuel touched it. Or maybe it would erupt, it does kind of look like a volcano. I might get one of these and mount the tornado directly on top of it. I will also direct two of my fogger nozzles so they will help the tornado spin a little faster. Hell man I would have a nitrous driven, tornado spinnin turtle port injected bad *****' RMAOL
I might even get a patent on it; think I'll call it the "Petite Obscure Supercharger" or POS for short. On top of that I will get either the OxyClean guy or the Gazelle guy to market it for me!!!!!! What do ya think?
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The actual aluminum turtles were odd shaped and a 4 leaf clover might be a good description.
I had a single plane modified with aluminum slats and contoured in with JB Weld. It looked like a work of art and actually made my motor have nearly equal primary header tube temps. Before the work the inner four cylinders ran richer than the outer four corners.
The idea was sound, the use of JB Weld was very flawed. Within a single plane manifold you have terrific air fluctuations and then add a couple of backfires and one of the pieces broke loose. Lucky for me that it was two big to actually go down into a cylinder. But at the JB Weld fed through. When I took off the carb for some reason much later I found this large piece of cast aluminum polished from bouncing around almost as if it were a rounded river rock.
Epoxy seemed to hold better, but I'm very leary of any parts under the carb
I had a single plane modified with aluminum slats and contoured in with JB Weld. It looked like a work of art and actually made my motor have nearly equal primary header tube temps. Before the work the inner four cylinders ran richer than the outer four corners.
The idea was sound, the use of JB Weld was very flawed. Within a single plane manifold you have terrific air fluctuations and then add a couple of backfires and one of the pieces broke loose. Lucky for me that it was two big to actually go down into a cylinder. But at the JB Weld fed through. When I took off the carb for some reason much later I found this large piece of cast aluminum polished from bouncing around almost as if it were a rounded river rock.
Epoxy seemed to hold better, but I'm very leary of any parts under the carb
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St. Jude Donor '05-'07
Originally Posted by isosceles
I thought the pocket fisherman was a Ronco product
Pretty cool guy actually.
I think the Tornado gizmo is from some Oriental dood.
Wu Pflung Dung is his name, I think
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Well, you guys can scoff if you want, but serious engine builders have been using various tricks to balance port distribution for decades.
My dad's engine dyno has several sets of dedicated headers with pyrometers in each primary to monitor individual cylinder combustion temps. He used various methods to balance distribution; selectively porting the plenum-runner transitions, carb jetting, spacers, home-made "turtles", etc.
If a little guy in Fly-Speck Ohio knew about this in the 70's, it must have some merit.
By the way...he built/dyno tuned this engine:
My dad's engine dyno has several sets of dedicated headers with pyrometers in each primary to monitor individual cylinder combustion temps. He used various methods to balance distribution; selectively porting the plenum-runner transitions, carb jetting, spacers, home-made "turtles", etc.
If a little guy in Fly-Speck Ohio knew about this in the 70's, it must have some merit.
By the way...he built/dyno tuned this engine:
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Hell, I thought those things went a way.
I remember seeing those around the dirt circle tracks in the mid-west. The late model and modified cars running large open intake manifolds were playing around with them. I haven't seen them since and thought they were gone for good.
I remember seeing those around the dirt circle tracks in the mid-west. The late model and modified cars running large open intake manifolds were playing around with them. I haven't seen them since and thought they were gone for good.
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St. Jude Donor '05-'07
Originally Posted by CGGorman
Well, you guys can scoff if you want, but serious engine builders have been using various tricks to balance port distribution for decades.
My dad's engine dyno has several sets of dedicated headers with pyrometers in each primary to monitor individual cylinder combustion temps. He used various methods to balance distribution; selectively porting the plenum-runner transitions, carb jetting, spacers, home-made "turtles", etc.
If a little guy in Fly-Speck Ohio knew about this in the 70's, it must have some merit.
By the way...he built/dyno tuned this engine:
My dad's engine dyno has several sets of dedicated headers with pyrometers in each primary to monitor individual cylinder combustion temps. He used various methods to balance distribution; selectively porting the plenum-runner transitions, carb jetting, spacers, home-made "turtles", etc.
If a little guy in Fly-Speck Ohio knew about this in the 70's, it must have some merit.
By the way...he built/dyno tuned this engine:
WOW!!! Great article!!! Love that twisted carb mount Tarantula/Torker manifold!!! I got a whole basement full of Tarantula TM2R manifolds.
Back in the 70s when the open plenum single plane manis came out there were a lot of guys making custom mods to divert the flow of air/gas more effectively.
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