Points to Electronic Conversion HELP!
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From: mia fl
Points to Electronic Conversion HELP!
The stock system has worked for over 30 years while changing the points once in a while. Now I bought a PROTORQUE 5323OS HI-TORQUE starter to cure that hot starter problem I have, but now I find that this new starter has only on wire for the ignition. The partsman at Murray's Auto supply, say that the starters come that way cause folks don't uses points anymore thus you don't get the "R" terminal. What is the most reliable converstion kit to change a 1971 454 stingray from points to electronic ignition without replacing the distributor?
http://www.pertronix.com/
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...&N=400078+1004
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From: Front Range
Your parts guy is trying to make you think what he has in stock is the only option out there.
I recently ordered a Powermaster starter, which *wasn't* supposed to come with an R terminal on the solenoid... but guess what I got.
I believe the Powermaster starter was P/N 9000. Then again, it was Summit Racing so it could have been a mis-labeled part.
tbw
I recently ordered a Powermaster starter, which *wasn't* supposed to come with an R terminal on the solenoid... but guess what I got.
I believe the Powermaster starter was P/N 9000. Then again, it was Summit Racing so it could have been a mis-labeled part.
tbw
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From: leroy n.y.
ignitor its called its a ring that goes on the distrubutor and a electric pickup does away with points and condenser it comes with good directions so just about anyone can do it corvette central has them or year one or go to your auto parts store they can order one for ya 
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From: mia fl
I do like the LOOKS of the CRANE CAMS points replacement Ignition Unit.
Does anyone out there have experience with these products?
Thanks to all that have tried to help. It's been a while since I drove my Stingray and I am having withdrawal symptoms.
Does anyone out there have experience with these products?
Thanks to all that have tried to help. It's been a while since I drove my Stingray and I am having withdrawal symptoms.
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I have used Pertronix for over 20 years now. The price on the Crane with a rev limiter seems to good to be true. No expirience with the Crane system but, expirience with the multi-strike Crane amplifier. I don't like MSD or Crane, I run Accell 300+ ignition boxes based on VERY BAD! expiriences with both MSD and Crane systems.
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From: Standing still with all my might Texas
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You are likely to get mixed replies from this forum about the Pertronix unit. There are some here who have had great success with it, and others who will swear it is a product of the devil himself. 
I have been using the Pertronix Ignitor II and Flamethrower coil for about 3 years now with no trouble whatsoever. When I first installed it I had a very worn original L48 in the car and the Pertronix really helped the throttle response on that engine, but in all fairness the points that I took out of it may not have been adjusted properly to begin with.
When I built my new 383 I just used the same distributor (and ignition unit). Still works great!
I have been using the Pertronix Ignitor II and Flamethrower coil for about 3 years now with no trouble whatsoever. When I first installed it I had a very worn original L48 in the car and the Pertronix really helped the throttle response on that engine, but in all fairness the points that I took out of it may not have been adjusted properly to begin with.
When I built my new 383 I just used the same distributor (and ignition unit). Still works great!
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From: mia fl
Well I have had little problem with the point based system. I don't drive the Stingray but a few hundred miles a year since I have had another car as a beater.
I change the points in the Stingray every few years and it is as reliable as an urn. My feeling is if it isn't broke, don't fix it. My problem was with the starter not wanting to crank over the motor after warming up.
I BEGINING TO THINK THE STARTER is going back in exchange for one called the protorque 5323R that has the "R" terminal.
I change the points in the Stingray every few years and it is as reliable as an urn. My feeling is if it isn't broke, don't fix it. My problem was with the starter not wanting to crank over the motor after warming up.
I BEGINING TO THINK THE STARTER is going back in exchange for one called the protorque 5323R that has the "R" terminal.
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From: mia fl
Originally Posted by Solid LT1
I have used Pertronix for over 20 years now. The price on the Crane with a rev limiter seems to good to be true. No expirience with the Crane system but, expirience with the multi-strike Crane amplifier. I don't like MSD or Crane, I run Accell 300+ ignition boxes based on VERY BAD! expiriences with both MSD and Crane systems.
Glad I didn't throw away my stock parts.
It seems the farther from stock you get, the more broken parts you have.
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From: Winston-Salem NC
I've been using the Breakerless-SE system that Lectric Limitied sells for about a year now, no problems.
http://www.lectriclimited.com/breakerless_se.htm
http://www.lectriclimited.com/breakerless_se.htm
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From: mia fl
Originally Posted by jbroughton
I've been using the Breakerless-SE system that Lectric Limitied sells for about a year now, no problems.
http://www.lectriclimited.com/breakerless_se.htm
http://www.lectriclimited.com/breakerless_se.htm
Thanks for the tip.
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From: mia fl
Hei Distributor With Tach Drive
Anybody have any experience with one of these?http://www.hotrodsusa.com/store/product2158.html
Last edited by Gforce454; Jul 7, 2005 at 04:23 PM. Reason: better info
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Originally Posted by Gforce454
It does appear to be a superior design. It looks interesting, though at $159.00 it is double the price of the competition. That begins to lead into HEI DISTRIBUTOR WITH TACH DRIVE type territory.
Thanks for the tip.
Thanks for the tip.
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From: Sewell NJ
I've had both the pertronix and the Crane. I had the Pertronix installed and it was trouble free for about 5 years. Then suddenly the car started to cut out and backfire. I changed it over to the Crane unit which I've had for about a year now with no problems. Overall the Crane is easier to install and you don't have to pull the distributor.
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Stay with the points
Originally Posted by Gforce454
Well I have had little problem with the point based system. I don't drive the Stingray but a few hundred miles a year since I have had another car as a beater.
I change the points in the Stingray every few years and it is as reliable as an urn. My feeling is if it isn't broke, don't fix it. My problem was with the starter not wanting to crank over the motor after warming up.
I BEGINING TO THINK THE STARTER is going back in exchange for one called the protorque 5323R that has the "R" terminal.
I change the points in the Stingray every few years and it is as reliable as an urn. My feeling is if it isn't broke, don't fix it. My problem was with the starter not wanting to crank over the motor after warming up.
I BEGINING TO THINK THE STARTER is going back in exchange for one called the protorque 5323R that has the "R" terminal.
I was forced to change from points to a pertroix ignitor and hated it. That plastic round rig wouldnt sit flat with only two mount points. It needs three or four. Plugs would get wet very quickly. Dumping the pertroix was the best move I did. That Crane unit looks better though. I run a Vertex magneto with tach drive now and have no problems.
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From: Engineers do it better.
Originally Posted by CircleW-72
I have had the Crane unit in my car for 2 years now,no problems and the rev-limiter works great.Best of all I got to keep my tach drive dist.