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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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Went for a drive today and when I shut off the engine one of the headlights popped up. I know I have seen a thread on this before, but I can't seem to find it. Any suggestions?
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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this is a new one on me. Hope you find the gremlin.
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Went for a drive today and when I shut off the engine one of the headlights popped up. I know I have seen a thread on this before, but I can't seem to find it. Any suggestions?
I'll be interested in the results, as I have a spastic door on the passenger side of my 77. If I start it back up and let the door drop, and then shut it off, it will normally stay down. The best I've seen is possibly a hole in the diaphram that allows it to start going up and the springs do the rest and lock it in the up position.

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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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Sounds like your headlight vacuum valve and vacuum filter is leaking or shot, check that valve and filter, also check the vacuum hoses and fit with both. Heat and age dries the hoses and the diaphram in the valve, it's an easy fix, the a new vacuum valve will run you around $13-$15.00
Had the same problem awhile back.........
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Originally Posted by 73jst4fun
Sounds like your headlight vacuum valve and vacuum filter is leaking or shot, check that valve and filter, also check the vacuum hoses and fit with both. Heat and age dries the hoses and the diaphram in the valve, it's an easy fix, the a new vacuum valve will run you around $13-$15.00
Had the same problem awhile back.........
Like said above take a look at the valve I would also check the check valve. For trouble shooting the vacuum system I have found blowing smoke through the lines helps find leaks. I just used a cigar and found a number of things on my car.
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Well, I am not using filter. I will have to check out the check valve.
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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I had the same problem, Lamp doors started opening on their own, I had to laugh, never seen anything like it before. Seems strange but GM designed the headlamp part of the system to default to open when there's low or no vacuum. That way, if your driving at night and have no vacuum, the doors dont close and you still have your headlights.
Your system is starting to leak, Its very hard to diagnose the culprit.I got a hose kit, replaced them all, but that wasnt the problem, turned out to be the vacuum relay up front between the headlamps. 70 bucks from Zips
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I had the same problem, Lamp doors started opening on their own, I had to laugh, never seen anything like it before. Seems strange but GM designed the headlamp part of the system to default to open when there's low or no vacuum. That way, if your driving at night and have no vacuum, the doors dont close and you still have your headlights.
Your system is starting to leak, Its very hard to diagnose the culprit.I got a hose kit, replaced them all, but that wasnt the problem, turned out to be the vacuum relay up front between the headlamps. 70 bucks from Zips
The hoses and wiper door relay were replaced a few years ago. I am going to try the check valve first, then move on to the more expensive components.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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this Thread is interesting as I just put out a Thread Friday simular to this.
One Simple Question I have, all these relays and check valves, anyone have pics of where they are? As in the key ones you are discribing. When I look and try to follow the vacuum hoses all I find is a mile or more of vacuum hose going all sorts of ways.
My Chevy book doesn't show the vette vacuum system..

Thanks
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I've lost count of the number of times I've posted this link and seen it posted.

http://209.183.231.72/corvette-101/vacuum.htm

This is an excellent troubleshooting guide that will help you narrow down where the problem is.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TheKomoman
I've lost count of the number of times I've posted this link and seen it posted.

http://209.183.231.72/corvette-101/vacuum.htm

This is an excellent troubleshooting guide that will help you narrow down where the problem is.
Don't need it now, but saved it to my favorites anyway. I'm SURE the time will come when I'll need it. Thanks!!!
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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www.corvettefaq.com
listed under Misc.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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My money is on that pesky vacuum valve. I've replaced 2 in 8 yrs. Similar symptoms.
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Originally Posted by theesir
Don't need it now, but saved it to my favorites anyway. I'm SURE the time will come when I'll need it. Thanks!!!
Me too
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I vote against the valve. It sounds like the actuator relay is losing vacuum (probably due to a leak) before the actuator. The last bit of vacuum is used to open your headlight.

I have been thinking about this since last night, when the same thing happened on my car!

I'll confirm this tomorrow, but I suspect a partially bad headlight switch or valve under the steering column. These feed the actuator relay.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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It was a bad check valve on mine. Of course, I had already replaced both relays and both actuators (they were also bad)
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Well, the check valve is bad. With the engine running, I pinched the line between the check valve and the engine. I then shut off the engine and released the clamp. PSSSSSSSSSSSS the vacuum was bleeding off. I then started it back up, pinched the line again, then shut it off again. After a few minutes I turned on the lights and they actually came up with the engine off. I have had my car for 6 years and they have never been able to do that.

Looks like I will be buying a new check valve.
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Originally Posted by 70 LS1
Well, the check valve is bad. With the engine running, I pinched the line between the check valve and the engine. I then shut off the engine and released the clamp. PSSSSSSSSSSSS the vacuum was bleeding off. I then started it back up, pinched the line again, then shut it off again. After a few minutes I turned on the lights and they actually came up with the engine off. I have had my car for 6 years and they have never been able to do that.

Looks like I will be buying a new check valve.
Okay, this may sound dumb ...but based on how my 77 works, the headlights haven't worked from the switch since I got them ...I've always had to pull the valve under the dash -- does that symptom also suggest a bad component other than the headlight switch? Check valve or relay valve perhaps?
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The first and best investment in troubleshooting the headlamp and wiper door vacuum system is a hand vacuum pump.
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Originally Posted by theandies
The first and best investment in troubleshooting the headlamp and wiper door vacuum system is a hand vacuum pump.
I already have a hand vacuum pump, but the whole troubleshooting procedure sounds like it's going to be a lot of work!

I bookmarked the page to dig into that ...thanks guys! Now I have just one more little (and probably expensive) project to work on.
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