Victor

I'm working on getting the engine out of my car and I'm debating on what I want to do with it.

Right now, I have about $2,000-$2,250 to spend on my engine and i'm thinking about using one of the trick-flow top end kits from summit. Click on the link below to see what I'm talking about.

http://www.summitracing.com/catalogs...yaug/135f.html

I'm eyeballing the "pro street engine kit" (the 445 hp, 405 tq) since I'm planning on keeping my 350 a 350. If you read the info on the other kits, even though they have higher numbers, they are tested on 383s while the one I'm looking at was tested on a 350.

If I need to, I plan on buying new pistons but i want to keep my compression ratio around 10.4. I also have my old Performer RPM intake manifold and a holley 750 cfm carb that i intend to put back onto my engine.

I would upgrade to a 383 stroker, but that is a little out of my budget at the moment.

So, my question is what do all of you experts on the forum think of this setup? Can I find something better for this ammount of money? Should I keep my Performer RPG manifold or upgrade it for an Edelbrock Air Gap Manifold (I'm not sure about clearance under my hood with this manifold)? Anything else I'm forgetting or not thinking about??

I'm new to all of this engine stuff and I don't really have a clue what I'm doing.

Thanks, again, in advance
Victor

Boofers

I don't know that much technically about engines, but what I do know is if you think its going to cost you $2250 by the time its all said and done you're going to find you spent $3000.

BigBlockk

What sorta of car you gunna put this thing in? Transmission type and rear gearing will dictate what cam you should run. That looks like a lot of camshaft for a 350 with 10.4/1 compression.

BigBlockk

Later.....

duliz

I think it's an awesome kit. I would definitely go for it. Also if you are running the stock engine with an auto transmission don't forget the torque converter. As far as the intake I believe (not sure) the Performer RPM and the Performer RPM Air Gap are just as tall.

Ganey

You need a manual trans. or higher stall converter.

Victor

thanks, I'll definately look at that.

I have a TH350 auto transmission and, as part of my whole build-up, I was intending to instal a shift-kit.

Any recomendations as far as transmission is concerned?

edit:

also, can a TH350 handle that much torque?

Ganey

Yes. Just get the TH350 built & a high stall converter.
Your RPM intake is fine & better for a sleeper, not much diff. w/ air gap.

grayhook

have you looked at the holley sysm. max kit? 425hp 435tq $1500.
i sure like it!

holley505

The cam you have in the kit will dicate the stall converter you need to get. Also the Gear in the rear will make a difference with the RPMs on the motor...have a 383 with this combo will make more tq mostly and a little more hp. But Tq is what makes you fast from stop.

Small blocks that turn need gear to get going. I would say at least a 3000 stall and 3.55-3.73 gears (if you have 3.36 you can manage, but 3.08 or less ) Keep your intake and carb...

You don't have to change pistons unless you want 2 or the motor is worn. Then do a full rebuild with bearing and rings also. The 64cc heads will increase your compression anyway.

hell you can almost buy a new crate motor with 2500.00

Victor

No I haven't, but I'd be interested to. Where have you seen it at?

Brettmc

Under his hood!!!

Summit part # HLY-300-503-1

$1429.95

Brett

grayhook

nice kit if you have a good short block. i got mine from summit back this time last year. with a th350 you will need a higher then stock stall converter.

here's a before/after vid i made
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=before-after

here's a idle vid i made back when i first got it going.
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Movie_000274

one more thing, with a edilbrock carb my stock hood didnt close so i got a high rise hood for it....after i got a holley 750dp and holley power shot aircleaner...wa la... stock hood fit's now with room to spare.

gator79

if you really want a 383 do it there is no comparison between a 350 and a 383 the torque is unreal. I bought my 383 4 bolt main short block with new eagle crank new keith black pistons for 1695.00 from the engine store. if your heads are ok all you have to add is a cam. you will probably only build the bottom end once so get what you want. you can allways change the heads later if you want. I can get you the info if you want it.

Victor

I can't believe I set myself up for that

Thanks for the info (and videos) everyone. I could listen to that engine idle all day!!


I definately have more to digest before I make a final decision

Brettmc

Yeah, there's quite a few options out there. I've seen Dart BB kits...wonder if they make a SB kit...but I think they're just from the heads up, no cam. The fun part is planning...and where you'll make or break your motor....

Brett

houstonvett

Another way is to check on board here for a GOOD machine shop in your area. Can buy 383 stroker 5140 steel crank from PAW for about 550.00. New KB Hyper pistons with ring 300.00. I would go with ARP main studs for main caps. Connecting rods need to be refurbished, block blueprinted, assamblely balanced and short block assambled. Depends where you are but figure about 1000.00 for machine shop. Had 383 done by Westside Perf. in Houston for less but brought them new rods to use. In heads bigger is not always better. Was going to use a motown 220 head on my 383 but intake runners are to big for the motor. The tourque with the bigger intake runner would be less then a runner of about 190 cc. World heads has an article on their web site about this. lots of very good tech threads on here. Read them and ask questions about members engine combos. My Motown heads will have to wait for a 427 buildup. If you go 383 route IMHO you will get more bang for the buck, houstonvett