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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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Hi all, new to these forums and vette ownership! Need some assistance with diagnosing a problem with the fuel system on this vette. It's a 1977 L82 with an Edelbrock 4 barrel carb. Here are the sypmptons - when idling everything is fine; you can tap the gas and get nice throttle response. The problem occurs when i put it in drive and give it a stong tap on the pedal. The engine almost dies, it sputters, makes a popping sound, and you can literally see a a stream of air/liquid mixture shoot out of the side of the carbuerator. Has anyone every senn ANYTHING remotely close to this? Any help would be greatly appreicated. Thanks in advance!
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It sounds like a weak accelerator pump shot. The gas coming out of the carb. is caused by the positive intake pressure from a lean back-fire in the intake. Be glad you don't have a Holley. They shoot great ***** of fire!
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Can an accelerator pump be swapped out easily?
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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what the h is "Ttt"?
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Often times the accelerator shot mechanism just needs adjustment - usually there is an adjustment screw on the linkage. Check it out before you try to replace stuff.
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by jerrypc
what the h is "Ttt"?
To The Top, bumps the thread back to the top of the heap.

I also about trying to do some adj before replacing, might get a book or manual on your carb.
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Thanks for all your help! Will try this right away. If WORSE comes to WORST, what carburetor do you experts recommend- best bang for your buck ??
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if you can't get the edelbrock to run right do not even attempt to start on the holley....
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TT - Do you really think a Holley is more difficult than an Edelbrock? I always thought a Holley was supposed to be the easiest carb to deal with myself. Of course mine still has a couple of hiccups

big_G - I love those great ***** of fire myself! Only bested (from what I hear) by accidentally activating a nitrous system while the car isn't running and then trying to start the car. . . That one's supposed to produce technicolor hood removals
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From a mechanical standpoint it's not more difficult but from a tuning standpoint it is, most of those things are really rich out of the box, just like the demons..and it takes some work to get them right
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You are probably right, my Holley was definitely too rich out of the box. I had to step down from 71 to 69 jets on the primary and haven't decided what to do on the secondaries yet. . . If the Edelbrock is closer out of the box it would at least save you that much hassle, but of course the jet changes on a Holley are really pretty easy, just a little messy

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Whoa, i was mistaken I actually have a rochester quadraject carb. Im looking at these two diagrams:
http://www.carburetion.com/Quads/E4MC.htm
http://www.carburetion.com/diags/4mv.jpg

I can't seem to find any reference to accelerator pumps. Could it be called by any other name?
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Originally Posted by jerrypc
Whoa, i was mistaken I actually have a rochester quadraject carb. Im looking at these two diagrams:
http://www.carburetion.com/Quads/E4MC.htm
http://www.carburetion.com/diags/4mv.jpg

I can't seem to find any reference to accelerator pumps. Could it be called by any other name?
In the first drawing the accelerator pump is #205.

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Later.....
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look at part # 205
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Originally Posted by jerrypc
Whoa, i was mistaken I actually have a rochester quadraject carb. Im looking at these two diagrams:
http://www.carburetion.com/Quads/E4MC.htm
http://www.carburetion.com/diags/4mv.jpg

I can't seem to find any reference to accelerator pumps. Could it be called by any other name?
If you have a Rochester Quadrajet:

With the engine off, take the air cleaner off and with your hand turn the throttle linkage to the full open position while checking for two big squirt of fuel in the primaries (front little barrel).

If that's okay then it's probably the famous secondary airvalve spring that is out of adjustement. (That problem is know has quadrabog.) The airvalve is the flap that you see from the top at the secondaries. (rear big barrel) There is a little allen screw under the side (passenger side) at the airvalve shaft. You can see it with a little mirror. That screw secure the spring adjustement that is near the end of the shaft (take a little flat screwdriver to hold it). You need to adjust the spring around 3/4 of a turn after the spring contact the pin. (take a mirror to see it since it's all underside).

I hope I'm clear enough.

Good luck

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Originally Posted by big_G
It sounds like a weak accelerator pump shot. The gas coming out of the carb. is caused by the positive intake pressure from a lean back-fire in the intake. Be glad you don't have a Holley. They shoot great ***** of fire!
So what you are saying is that a lean condition can cause gas to squirt out of the carb? I am having a similar issue right now. I recently put a new electric choke on and it was running but had a cold start problem. Then after playing with the timing, floats, a/f screws, and idle screw I have it to the point the car wont start. It wants to catch and then it spits gas out of the carb. Once in a while she will start very very rough and will stall the second I get off of WOT. I have tinkered so much I dont know where to start. I was thinking it could squirt gas if the floats are too high.
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