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From: WAY DEEP INSIDE AMERICO,YES YOU LIVE HERE TO!! TX
[QUOTE=norvalwilhelm]
I am actually trying to get the car is good enough shape to pass a safety if I am every stopped.[QUOTE]
Noval, did those cats quiet your car down some??
or does it sound the same??
I am actually trying to get the car is good enough shape to pass a safety if I am every stopped.[QUOTE]
Noval, did those cats quiet your car down some??
or does it sound the same??
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From: Waterloo ontario Canada
Originally Posted by LiveandLetDrive
I'm curious why you didn't gut them if you're only worried about the visual. Or do what I'd like to do and also fit a pipe through the center to avoid even any turbulence from them. 
I've actually been driving my car without inspection since I moved into the state nearly 2 years ago :o Risky. Fortunately I only get tickets in Virginia 
-Chris
I've actually been driving my car without inspection since I moved into the state nearly 2 years ago :o Risky. Fortunately I only get tickets in Virginia -Chris
If a cop sticks his head under the car and sees no cats I automatically get a $450 fine and still have to buy cats plus get an inspection for the infraction. If I have cats the cop might not find an excuse to fine me and thus I don't have to go in for an inspection.
They are going to some of the car shows and blocking the exists requireing every car in the lot to go through a visual inspection.
I have not been inspected for 19 years and want to keep it that way.
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From: Waterloo ontario Canada
[QUOTE=MEGALADON][QUOTE=norvalwilhelm]
I am actually trying to get the car is good enough shape to pass a safety if I am every stopped.
Noval, did those cats quiet your car down some??
or does it sound the same??
I don't think it made any difference. The problem is I installed a 12 point cage at the same time. A cage brings the noise into the car more. I also found the dynomat did nothing either but again it could be the cage.
I am actually trying to get the car is good enough shape to pass a safety if I am every stopped.
Noval, did those cats quiet your car down some??
or does it sound the same??
I don't think it made any difference. The problem is I installed a 12 point cage at the same time. A cage brings the noise into the car more. I also found the dynomat did nothing either but again it could be the cage.
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From: Coming home from Luckenbach Texas
Originally Posted by norvalwilhelm
They are going to some of the car shows and blocking the exists requireing every car in the lot to go through a visual inspection.
Why don't they go fight crime or something useful like that?
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From: Orrtanna Pa.
I was forced into a cat install when I did my 700r4 conversion,which lead to a rerouting of my exhaust. The Midas shop(yes I know,never use Midas),insisted the placement had to be stock,and on the 80,there's only one cat,so he wouldn't even install two.Long story short my 500hp 406 has since caused a converter melt down..........like chunks of the converter bed shot out of the 3" exhaust.I have now gutted the cat and shortly thereafter went for another inspection. This time he failed it because there was no AIR injection.I decided to apply for Antique tags and now don't have to deal with ANY inspection........except my own.
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hey now...I don't have catalytic converters...don't mess up my topic with such tree hugger items as that 
I added some more crap to my engine bay and believe it or not there's still room for the spreader bar..just (it's not in the pics, have not installed it yet)
and a remote oil press. regulator..sure beats busting your knuckes on the back of the dry sump pump.
and the other side control arm is as good as done also, need to drill out the holes for the little ball joint bolts so that they are inside the arm (like the other one) and add the sway bar brackets..that's it.
I added some more crap to my engine bay and believe it or not there's still room for the spreader bar..just (it's not in the pics, have not installed it yet)
and a remote oil press. regulator..sure beats busting your knuckes on the back of the dry sump pump.
and the other side control arm is as good as done also, need to drill out the holes for the little ball joint bolts so that they are inside the arm (like the other one) and add the sway bar brackets..that's it.
Last edited by Twin_Turbo; Oct 16, 2005 at 02:11 PM.
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From: Waterloo ontario Canada
Originally Posted by page62
It's good to know the Oh-Pee-Pees have nothing better to do than check show cars for cats.
Why don't they go fight crime or something useful like that?
Why don't they go fight crime or something useful like that?
There are lots and lots of unsafe modified cars out there. I spot them all the time, mainly it is lower ricers with massive camber because they lowered the car without shortening the strut rods.
I also look under some of the modified older muscles cars and see flimsy modifications that I would worry about.
Anyway I know the shows to avoid and so far after 2 years have been able to duck the safety lanes.
Even a simple open filter air cleaner is worth a ticket.
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From: Waterloo ontario Canada
Originally Posted by The Money Pit
I was forced into a cat install when I did my 700r4 conversion,which lead to a rerouting of my exhaust. The Midas shop(yes I know,never use Midas),insisted the placement had to be stock,and on the 80,there's only one cat,so he wouldn't even install two.Long story short my 500hp 406 has since caused a converter melt down..........like chunks of the converter bed shot out of the 3" exhaust.I have now gutted the cat and shortly thereafter went for another inspection. This time he failed it because there was no AIR injection.I decided to apply for Antique tags and now don't have to deal with ANY inspection........except my own.
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From: Waterloo ontario Canada
Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
a little...not much 
If you want to rotate it 180 it is simple with the plate you have but you must do a slight modification.
Yours is even more cluttered then mine and I just found room through for a spreader bar.
You will not get a electric fan on the back of the rad.
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Originally Posted by norvalwilhelm
Marck you hydro boost is upside down to the way we mount it. OUr lines come out the bottom and that places the brass canister to the outside away from the valve cover.
If you want to rotate it 180 it is simple with the plate you have but you must do a slight modification.
Yours is even more cluttered then mine and I just found room through for a spreader bar.
You will not get a electric fan on the back of the rad.
If you want to rotate it 180 it is simple with the plate you have but you must do a slight modification.
Yours is even more cluttered then mine and I just found room through for a spreader bar.
You will not get a electric fan on the back of the rad.
See:
Last edited by Twin_Turbo; Oct 16, 2005 at 06:56 PM.
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From: Orrtanna Pa.
Originally Posted by norvalwilhelm
I tried the antique tags also but the car is to be 99% stock. Guess I failed.
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[QUOTE=Twin_Turbo]No, it's not upside down, it's the only way the master will fit without hitting the downpipe and at this angle the 2 reservoirs on the master are level like they are supposed to (c4 master cylinder) I can rotate the booster but then the master won't fit. I can fit an electric fan on the back of the rad, it's tight but it will fit.
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[QUOTE]
If the hyrdroboost is rotated 180 degrees the master cylinder doesn't know the hydroboost has been rotated. With the way you are running it the brass cansister is right next to the valve cover??
By taking the hydroboost off the mounting plate, filing a small knotch 180 degrees from the little tit you can reassemble with the hoses comming out the bottom and the master cylinder in the proper positition just like it is now.
See:
[QUOTE]
If the hyrdroboost is rotated 180 degrees the master cylinder doesn't know the hydroboost has been rotated. With the way you are running it the brass cansister is right next to the valve cover??
By taking the hydroboost off the mounting plate, filing a small knotch 180 degrees from the little tit you can reassemble with the hoses comming out the bottom and the master cylinder in the proper positition just like it is now.
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From: Waterloo ontario Canada
Originally Posted by The Money Pit
I threw on the stock rims and took cheap digital photo's for the Antique tag application. If you looked real close you could still see the headers.Norval if you Photoshopped the blower out and put back on some stock rims it would pass.There was no visual inspection,just pictures.
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From: Waterloo ontario Canada
Marck when you rotate the hydroboost you do not rotate the mounting plate... You need the mounting plate to have this slope. You must file a new notch 180 degrees, a 1/4 inch round file, file 1/2 circle out of the side 180 degrees from the tit, file the tit off. Then take a 1/4 inch bolt and cut a slice about 1/8th thick off of the shank, just a thin slice so you need to make 2 cuts.
Rotate the mounting plate on the booster and drop this slice in the 1/2 moon you filed and the slot in the hydroboost and do the large nut up agian.
This rotates the hydroboost, keeps the resoviors higher so they won't hit the turbo exhuast and brings the hoses out underneath and the brass cansiter moves to the outside.
Try it Marck. it will work.
Rotate the mounting plate on the booster and drop this slice in the 1/2 moon you filed and the slot in the hydroboost and do the large nut up agian.
This rotates the hydroboost, keeps the resoviors higher so they won't hit the turbo exhuast and brings the hoses out underneath and the brass cansiter moves to the outside.
Try it Marck. it will work.
