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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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Well, I finally got my Vortec heads torqued on. Because of all the problems I've been having with my old heads, I did a compression test before putting the rest of the upper end together. This was to ensure the problem was with my old heads and not my block. The good news is that the compression test showed all the cylinders to be pretty close on their readings. The bad news is that they all ranged between 170 and 180. Is this too high? For some reason I was expecting between 140-160.
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Right on the money for a mild buildup
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Mine were all at about 150psi on a 10.2:1 engine. You're using the starter to determine right? But then again, the car hadn't run in 2 weeks and the battery was probably a little low.
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Yes, the starter is what I used to turn the engine. I have flat-top pistons, so I'm sure the compression is up there. I just hope it isn't too high up there. I don't mind using premium fuel, but I don't want to have to go beyond that.
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My L48 with Sportsman II iron heads was 230psi across the board, it would run on pump gas with timing set at 40 degs. no vacuum advance, no problem
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230 psi?! Woah, I don't even think my friends guage went that high. What compression are you running?
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Your cam profile will make all the difference in the world on these pressure readings, what your looking for is consistancy, your higher rpm cams generally will have lower cylinder pressure because of centerline, overlap and duration.
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My CR was about 10:1 and I got ~ 230psi with both CC270H and CC282S cams
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L48 with Edelbrock RPM 64cc & SRP flattops here...

11.5:1 run 93 octane no problems...
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Originally Posted by 73'Vette
compression test showed all the cylinders to be pretty close on their readings. The bad news is that they all ranged between 170 and 180. Is this too high? For some reason I was expecting between 140-160.
A cranking compression test is not an indication of compression ratio or the ability to run pump gas. Cam overlap (not lift) is the biggest factor on cranking pressure. You can make an 11:1 comp motor survive on pump gas with a big enough cam, and you can get a 9.5:1 motor to detonate and rattle like a jar of marbles if the cam is too small. If you have the numbers on your head cc and your piston reliefs, you can go to this web site for a fairly accurate and easy comp ratio calculator:

http://www.campbellenterprises.com/R...o%20calculator
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Originally Posted by 80TexasC3
L48 with Edelbrock RPM 64cc & SRP flattops here...
11.5:1 run 93 octane no problems...
If you have a .030" over 350 with flat top pistons (and no valve reliefs), 64cc heads, .030" gasket and .020" deck, you're running 10.7:1. If you figure your valve reliefs are at least 5cc's, you're at 10.1:1 which is manageable on the street. If your 350 is at standard bore, you're down at 10:1.
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Right Lars, and that's even assuming he's decked. flat tops won't make 11:1 on 58 cc's.
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Thanks for the help guys. I guess this weekend I'll be finishing reassembly and hopefully go for my first cruise I've had in months.
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Originally Posted by 73'Vette
Thanks for the help guys. I guess this weekend I'll be finishing reassembly and hopefully go for my first cruise I've had in months.
If it has stock L48 dished 4vr pistons ... a steel shim gasket ... and 62cc vortecs ... & stock deck ... it PROBABLY makes ABOUT 9.3:1 - 9.5:1 STATIC CR.
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jackson -
I agree - If he has an otherwise stock engine and slaps the 62 or 64cc heads on it with a stock-type gasket set, he'll probably be around 9.5:1 - should run great on regular pump gas on the street.
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lars, what do you charge to put your golden hammer on a q-jt rebuild and a distriburetor? the car is a '69 350/300 four speed have offidle surging and high speed problems. you can contact me off line at amanns@tds.net
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Send me an e-mail request for info and I'll send you out an info package:
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Originally Posted by MotorHead
My CR was about 10:1 and I got ~ 230psi with both CC270H and CC282S cams

My last build was a Pontiac 455 with .30 milled 6x heads and had 230 with a 10.5 calculated CR. The car ran super with no problems.
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