Total Seal Rings
Melting Slicks
Joined: Aug 2003
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From: Dayton Oh
Since no one has replied, I thought that I've give you a TTT. Is your engine using an excessive amount of oil? If not, then probably the rings just need a little more time to break in. It is possible that you have a small oil leak in your intake manifold. You'll also need to furnish us with a little more info such as did you just replace the rings without honing down the cylinders, are you using Dino or synthetic oil during your break in, etc.
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Instructor
Joined: Jun 2003
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From: Jesup Georgia
It is a brand new engine.one piece rear main seal block,Vortec heads with stainless valves,Comp hyd roller cam,SRP forged pistons.Scat crank Eagle rods,Professional products airgap intake with BG Demon carb.Everything brad new and it is using some oil .10-30 Valvaline regular oil.is what i am currently using.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Sep 2003
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From: eastern NC
I used these on a 302 I built many years ago. I installed the two piece rings in the top land of the pistons as the directions indicated. The engine sat for about six months before I installed it in the car. In the meantime they sent me a letter that indicated they were having sealing problems on some engines and they were recommending that the two piece rings be installed in the second land of the pistons to eliminate the problem. Since the engine was already assembled I decided to let it go and take my chances. Unfortunately they never did stop burning oil, so after 6000 miles I just re-ringed the engine using stock rings and never had another problem.
I don't know what they are recommending now, but if you installed them in the first ring land, this could be your problem.
Good luck... GUSTO
I don't know what they are recommending now, but if you installed them in the first ring land, this could be your problem.
Good luck... GUSTO
Safety Car
Joined: Sep 2005
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From: Orange County Ca
One popular line of thinking is that you should use conventional rings on the top groove to allow a small amount of blow by to help seal the lower ring. Supossedly, it you seal off the blow by too good with the top ring, it is detremental to sealing off the lower ring. Something I read somplace. Anyway, rings should seat almost immediately, if not, sometimes you can help them with a good hard run. Just make sure you have good oil pressure and don't over heat it. You really don't have to baby a new engine. Remember, when starting a engine for the first time, it is recommended to start it and run it at 2500 rpm for 20 minutes to break in the cam. Slow speed/idleing, is not necessiarally good for a engine. Good luck
Melting Slicks
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I tried them with the gapless ring installed on the second groove and still had oil control problems as a result. I've since gone back to the conventional ring pack. I don't believe any major auto manufacturer uses this technology, and this may be a clue. I have become skeptical of new aftermarket technology. If the manufactures aren’t using it, there is probably a good reason.
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