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Old Dec 8, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by yellow 72
Who says you have to put the PCV valve in the valve covers? On my last few manifolds I've drilled my intakes over the lifter valley for the valve. When I got these trick new covers the last thing I wanted was a bunch of crap hanging out of the top of them. Crankcase air intake is on the back of one cover plumbed to the air cleaner assembly. I did fab a baffle under the grommet in the intake and I used a lifter valley baffle.

Is the PCV valve the only form of crankcase ventilation that you have? And is that the same vacuum line that feeds your brake booster? That motor is gorgeous by the way.
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Sorry, double post :o

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Originally Posted by torqvette
Is the PCV valve the only form of crankcase ventilation that you have? And is that the same vacuum line that feeds your brake booster? That motor is gorgeous by the way.
Yes, the PCV in the manifold and a fresh air intake hose in the back of the pass side valve cover that connects to the air cleaner base. And thanks
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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Yellow 72 - My question would be the "T" pcv and on to the brakes. Does it effect repeated braking? Unless you have a mild cam the "T" would cause a reduced signal to the booster?
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by kdf1986

And last...didnt early Chevy V-8 engines have some type of external oil filler tube at the front of the engine which meant those valve covers may not have needed holes in them, but they did have an oil filler tube.

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those engines also had a breather tube with hose connected on the back of the block...just behind the passenger side of the intake

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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 06:10 AM
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Yellow 72 - My question would be the "T" pcv and on to the brakes. Does it effect repeated braking? Unless you have a mild cam the "T" would cause a reduced signal to the booster?
I have a T with the booster and PVC connected with no noticable problems with braking.
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Originally Posted by gkull
Yellow 72 - My question would be the "T" pcv and on to the brakes. Does it effect repeated braking? Unless you have a mild cam the "T" would cause a reduced signal to the booster?
That T goes to the vacuum reservoir I have manual brakes....
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Originally Posted by yellow 72
That T goes to the vacuum reservoir I have manual brakes....
That response about PVC and booster was for gkull, as far as vacuum reservoir,PVC and a T, I don't know...my guess, try it and if it doesn't work, refigure, I would say you'll know immediately if the PVC is pulling too much vacuum, I assume that's your concern...I have dual quads and have 2 ported and 2 non-ported vacuum ports to choice from, so vacuum access isn't a problem for me...
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Originally Posted by kb2fzq
I would say you'll know immediately if the PVC is pulling too much vacuum, I assume that's your concern.....
It's been a long time since my Vette had a motor with Too Much Vacuum! LOL

I've had to down shift and let off of the gas to get my head lights to open going up hill on a freeway.
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My point being...with a T there is no resistance thru the PVC...the vacuum is pulling air out of the crankcase thru a breather on the other valve cover, hence the booster side of the T "MAY" be low or none existant, making stopping a little difficult if there is low or no vacuum on the booster...my point being with MY car, this problem with the T isn't happening, I have good brakes and the PVC must be working as the oil blow-by accumulating on chrome parts that was happening with the pvc removed is no longer happening....just my point..not that there would be TOO MUCH vacuum
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My car was pretty much unmolested when I bought it and there was a T on the PCV then on to the vac canister. Don't know if that was a manual brake only setup or what....
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kdf1986
I heard that if you dont have any type of breathers/PVC system on your valve covers that the internal pressure will build up enough to cause leaks from the pressure.

Having said that, if you dont have holes in your valve covers, then how do you add oil?

And last...didnt early Chevy V-8 engines have some type of external oil filler tube at the front of the engine which meant those valve covers may not have needed holes in them, but they did have an oil filler tube.

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good point about adding oil. My dad's '63 Studebaker Avanti, that I got to drive to high school, has 4 breather caps (two per valve cover) and an additional tube that went straight to the oil pan. In that configuration it's possible to pour 5 quarts of oil into the engine simultaneously.

My autoshop classmates thought it was really cool. After I'd finished draining the pan, I'd give 5 of them each one bottle of oil and tell them to have at it. They'd fight over who got the "pan" tube because it is the easist to pour into without getting oil on the engine; something I told them to try not to do.

I always thought it would be cool to replicate the "5 oil filler" design on my Corvette. Though my dad's Avanti is special because it had a race motor built by the Granatelli brothers. Having the same thing done to my street driven Corvette may prove to be pointless. Do daily driven cars really need that much venting?
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