T5 Transmission Install Update
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Melting Slicks
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From: Knoxville Tennessee
Aqua80,
The yoke can be found at most junk yards for 30 to 45 dollars. Make sure it is from a V8 car. It will look like a regular yoke. Yokes from 4 and 6 cylinder cars have a big round weight on the rear of the yoke which looks like it is balanced (which it is). It will not fit in your tunnel. I had one and had to get another. I was lucky, there is a mustang salvage garage here that has plenty. If you can't find one, I can get you in touch with these guys to get you one. PM me if you need help.
Bernie
The yoke can be found at most junk yards for 30 to 45 dollars. Make sure it is from a V8 car. It will look like a regular yoke. Yokes from 4 and 6 cylinder cars have a big round weight on the rear of the yoke which looks like it is balanced (which it is). It will not fit in your tunnel. I had one and had to get another. I was lucky, there is a mustang salvage garage here that has plenty. If you can't find one, I can get you in touch with these guys to get you one. PM me if you need help.
Bernie
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From: Amelia Ohio
Originally Posted by Danspeed1
Hello,
Thats good at least,... I can find just about any transmission out of a Mustang,... now, not to sound like a broken record, but could I also use a T5 out of an 87 Camaro 305, or would that not fit right? I can get one of those for $100. If not; its off to the junkyard again,... no matter.... Pedals going in hopefully this weekend. Ill post pics...,,
Dan
Thats good at least,... I can find just about any transmission out of a Mustang,... now, not to sound like a broken record, but could I also use a T5 out of an 87 Camaro 305, or would that not fit right? I can get one of those for $100. If not; its off to the junkyard again,... no matter.... Pedals going in hopefully this weekend. Ill post pics...,,
Dan
http://www.5speeds.com/t5/
Chris
Drifting
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From: Ontario
Originally Posted by BerniesVette
The vette u-joint should fit the T5 yoke. Mine did and I think carguy4sure's did as well. It is good to see so many people using this swap.
Bernie
Bernie
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Melting Slicks
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From: Knoxville Tennessee
BigE,
Yes we all made our own adapter out of 1/2 inch aluminum 11 inches square. If you need details on the deminisions, I think I still have the ones Norval sent me when I did mine.
Bernie
Yes we all made our own adapter out of 1/2 inch aluminum 11 inches square. If you need details on the deminisions, I think I still have the ones Norval sent me when I did mine.
Bernie
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From: Oakdale Ct
Bernie..
That would be great if you still have them! I was going to save for a keisler setup, but came accross a T5-WC... now I'm wondering if I can work the same magic you guys did.... That adapter is the one thing that has me worried about wether I can do it myself.
That would be great if you still have them! I was going to save for a keisler setup, but came accross a T5-WC... now I'm wondering if I can work the same magic you guys did.... That adapter is the one thing that has me worried about wether I can do it myself.
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From: Waterloo ontario Canada
If you bore a hole in a 1/2 inch plate and call the center of that hole 0.0 or exact center and then using a digital mill go to these co ordinates and drill hole the plate will bolt to the stock bellhousing. These are in inches using the center of the big hole as a reference from where the readings are taken.
The plate is really simple for a machinist.
The plate is really simple for a machinist.
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From: Waterloo ontario Canada
After making the plate you slip it over the nose of the transmission and mark and drill the holes for mounting the transmission. You then mark and trim away all the excess material that hangs outside the bellhousing and transmission.
It comes out very sleek looking.
This is a picture of the adapter with a mustang T5 transmission.
It comes out very sleek looking.
This is a picture of the adapter with a mustang T5 transmission.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Knoxville Tennessee
Norval,
Thanks for posting those deminisions for BigE. The deminisions are perfect and a goof machine shop cna do it in no time. Be sure to measure the input shaft as this is critical to getting the correct spacer thickness. The early models take a 1/2 inch thick spacer but the newer model T5's require a little thicker spacer and can actually be accomplished by using two spacers the way Norval and Carguy4sure did his. Once you have the spacer made the rest is just removing and installing components until the job is complete. Carguy4sure has a very detailed thread on his conversion with Norval's expert assistance.
Bernie
Thanks for posting those deminisions for BigE. The deminisions are perfect and a goof machine shop cna do it in no time. Be sure to measure the input shaft as this is critical to getting the correct spacer thickness. The early models take a 1/2 inch thick spacer but the newer model T5's require a little thicker spacer and can actually be accomplished by using two spacers the way Norval and Carguy4sure did his. Once you have the spacer made the rest is just removing and installing components until the job is complete. Carguy4sure has a very detailed thread on his conversion with Norval's expert assistance.
Bernie
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Melting Slicks
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From: Knoxville Tennessee
I managed to get the resevoire mounted today along with the slave cylinder and the new rag joint. I mounted the resevoire in what I think is a good location for service and checking. I also got the brake booster back on the the linkage to the brake pedal hooked up. Here a a few pictures.
Tomorrow I will measure for the line from the master to the slave cylinder, get the hose to go from the resoirve to the master and start installing the steering column!
Bernie
Tomorrow I will measure for the line from the master to the slave cylinder, get the hose to go from the resoirve to the master and start installing the steering column!
Bernie
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From: Denville NJ
Bernie,
I have been closely following your progress and tapping into all the know-how from you all while starting on my own project for my 76.
I hope you dont mind a few questions from the sideline here...
Is this the stock slave cylinder that matches the master? Did you modify the slave push rod? It looks a bit off center.
Are you using the stock clutch fork to go with with bellhousing? Did you end up modifying the floor to allow or need clearance for the fork?
What reservoir did you use?
This has really been a great lesson you guys are providing. Keep the pictures coming.
Thanks,
joe
I have been closely following your progress and tapping into all the know-how from you all while starting on my own project for my 76.
I hope you dont mind a few questions from the sideline here...
Is this the stock slave cylinder that matches the master? Did you modify the slave push rod? It looks a bit off center.
Are you using the stock clutch fork to go with with bellhousing? Did you end up modifying the floor to allow or need clearance for the fork?
What reservoir did you use?
This has really been a great lesson you guys are providing. Keep the pictures coming.
Thanks,
joe
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Melting Slicks
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From: Knoxville Tennessee
Joe,
We are glad you are interested and can provide others with help with these types of swaps. I have followed Norval's post on this swap and it is exactly the same as his. I used the master cylinder and slave cylinder from a 1985 one ton chevy truck. They fit perfectly. Yes, the rod from the slave cylinder is angled but the slave is made so that the rod doesn't have to follow a straight path into the cylinder. The old one I remove from the bellhousing looked the same. I did have to notch the corner of the floor pan slightly to get the fork to clear. This is easy and you cannot tell it has been done from inside the car. The fork is the original fork that was with the bellhousing when I got it. You can use a bellhousing that does not have a bracket as part of the bellhousing; you just have to make an adapter to hold the slave cylinder. This has been a fun and worthwhile modification for me, and it has gone just the way Norval and carguy4sure described their swaps. I have had no surprises and am looking forward to the finished product! There are a lot of guys on the forum willing to help with most any problem or modification you want to accomplish.
Bernie
We are glad you are interested and can provide others with help with these types of swaps. I have followed Norval's post on this swap and it is exactly the same as his. I used the master cylinder and slave cylinder from a 1985 one ton chevy truck. They fit perfectly. Yes, the rod from the slave cylinder is angled but the slave is made so that the rod doesn't have to follow a straight path into the cylinder. The old one I remove from the bellhousing looked the same. I did have to notch the corner of the floor pan slightly to get the fork to clear. This is easy and you cannot tell it has been done from inside the car. The fork is the original fork that was with the bellhousing when I got it. You can use a bellhousing that does not have a bracket as part of the bellhousing; you just have to make an adapter to hold the slave cylinder. This has been a fun and worthwhile modification for me, and it has gone just the way Norval and carguy4sure described their swaps. I have had no surprises and am looking forward to the finished product! There are a lot of guys on the forum willing to help with most any problem or modification you want to accomplish.
Bernie
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Melting Slicks
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From: Knoxville Tennessee
Joe, I forgot to tell you that I got the resivoire from Coleman Racing. If you can't find it I will look up the parts list for you. It was not an expensive item.
Bernie
Bernie
