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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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Hi guys ( and gals )

Am looking to install my Sidepipes over the next week or so depending on workload and have a few questions.

The pipes are Patriot, not the best possibly but Im on a tight budget and I wanted Sidies!!

So questions

My headers are tubular down to a 4 into 1 collector, diameter looks to be around 4 inches or so ( maybe 3 ) Then a reducing flange, another reducer and then off down 2 - 2 1/2 duals. ( will keep the duals for spare )
The Patriot kit has a 3 inch elbow with a 2 inch cone at one end. What I was thinking of doing was getting rid of the restrictions as much as possible i.e cutting the 2 inch end off the elbow giving a 3 inch pipe then removing the reducers off the header collector and using a piece of 3 inch stainless flexible exhaust tubing that a friend has offered. I believe it to be heavy duty stuff used on ships, he a dock worker. This way I have a better flow???

X pipe, H pipe, Balance pipe...what ever its called...If we fabricate one, what size does it need to be? Is it purely to help balance the engine load so will a smaller diameter pipe be ok, if so what kind of size would you recommend.

Finally, the engine is running sweet. Will the change in exhaust affect the carb and its setup at all?

Thanks all!

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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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read the drgas web page for sizing info. lots of examples there. x-pipe looks hard to do because you have to go back behind the tranny to do it and then wrap back around to the front for the sidepipes. if u find aa good way let me know as we are installing ours next month (painting this month). straight 3" sounds great. the x balances exhaust flow and times the pulses better in terms of using flow from 1 pipe to help draw vacuum on the other is essentially how i understand it.
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sorry to be a n00b but where do I find the drag pages? Thx.
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Any other help...pretty pleez....
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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This is not a good pic but it's all I have.
My crossover goes under the back of the trans straight across the car. It's not the optimal position but it is possible to do!

You can see the flanges for the crossover in this pic but not the part under the car. Flanges make it possible to remove to drop the tranny without a major headache.

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Ok so if I go with a 3 inch pipe from headers to pipes and fabricate a crossover pipe in std 2 inch exhaust pipe, will that be ok?
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it's Dr. Gas and his webpae is drgas.com sorry for the confusion. he's the guy who claims to have originated the x-pipe.
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