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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 06:47 AM
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When I turn off the ignition the motor still runs till I put in gear and release clutch. Then after that it runs really bad till it drives for about 5 miles than it seams ok till you shut it off and stall the moter to stop it.

When the engine is running like crap the tack goes crazy????
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 07:10 AM
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Sounds like it's "dieseling", if that's a word.

I'd check the timing. I'd check for fouled spark plugs.

That being said, I'd first check the throttle linkage/carb to make sure the butterflies are closing completely. chuck
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 07:14 AM
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I know you probably don't want to hear this, but sounds like you still have distributor problems, the diesling is a timimg problem...do yourself a favor and drop a stock distributor in that car and all your problems will go away...
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by kb2fzq
I know you probably don't want to hear this, but sounds like you still have distributor problems, the diesling is a timimg problem...do yourself a favor and drop a stock distributor in that car and all your problems will go away...

I'll have to agree!! You have a run on problem. We used to do this with demo derby cars by over advancing the timing to keep them running after the radiators would blow from overheating. We had to have a ball valve in the cab to shut off the fuel supply to get the engine to stop running after the ignition was turned off.
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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Sounds like two issues...(ignition maybe).... and carb setting or sticking throttle plates/high idle....
Take some carb cleaner and spray(cold engine) on carb linkage and clean...but you have posted issues with distrbuter recently..are you sure that is fixed..???
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Sounds like two issues...(ignition maybe).... and carb setting or sticking throttle plates/high idle....
Take some carb cleaner and spray(cold engine) on carb linkage and clean...but you have posted issues with distrbuter recently..are you sure that is fixed..???
It may be part of the same problem I have been having with my distributor. I have changed two condensers in two days. The dieseling problems has been there for some time and with the A/C on the engine shuts off OK (Drag)

The funny thing is when the engine is missing the tack flutters and after going down the highway for around 5 miles it settles down and runs OK?

I may set the timing back a little to see if that helps. But the fluttering tack has me wondering WTF???
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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With an AC car, you should have an idle solenoid near the carb lever. With the AC ON, a plunger extends from that solenoid, bumping up the idle/engine speed to compensate for the AC.

With the AC OFF, that plunger should retract. If it's not retracted, that might account for the throttle not closing all the way, causing your dieseling problem. Chuck
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Gongloff
With an AC car, you should have an idle solenoid near the carb lever. With the AC ON, a plunger extends from that solenoid, bumping up the idle/engine speed to compensate for the AC.

With the AC OFF, that plunger should retract. If it's not retracted, that might account for the throttle not closing all the way, causing your dieseling problem. Chuck
Thanks Chuck, I will check the carb but do you have ant idea why it runs so bad after this happens and why does the misfiring affect the tack???
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Oh, the Tach?...take your wallet out and get ready to buy another module...
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Originally Posted by kb2fzq
Oh, the Tach?...take your wallet out and get ready to buy another module...
But if the Tach modual was bad why does it work good when the engine runs good???
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Originally Posted by Bangkok Dean
It may be part of the same problem I have been having with my distributor. I have changed two condensers in two days. The dieseling problems has been there for some time and with the A/C on the engine shuts off OK (Drag)

The funny thing is when the engine is missing the tack flutters and after going down the highway for around 5 miles it settles down and runs OK?

I may set the timing back a little to see if that helps. But the fluttering tack has me wondering WTF???
Could be the tach is affected by the distributer..intermittently...Im assuming you don't have a miss when driving..just the over run when you shut it down..I had a problem once after a radio installation..kept affecting the ignition,till I found out by accident..turkey had wired it thru the on side of the ignition switch..acc don't work...so the radio overloaded the ignition...at least I think so..have not had an issue since I disconnected the radio...

Chuck may also have a point about the A/C...

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