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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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My 1980 C3 is not keeping any charge - it was dead as the proverbial door nail after just two days sitting in the garage. The strange thing is I have a misfire and the interior lights stay on even though the doors are shut. Has anyone any ideas? I'm going to get on my back and look at the earthing straps but I've never seen this wierd behaviour before!

Any ideas guys????
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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Make sure the headlight **** isn't turned all the way to the left (CCW).
The door pin switch or wiring may be defective.
The interior lamp timer may be defective. (Taped to the wiring harness behind glove box, 2x2x3/4 inch box)
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 12:20 AM
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The interior lamp timer may be defective. (Taped to the wiring harness behind glove box, 2x2x3/4 inch box)

This is usually the part that goes bad on the '80. Remove the glove box liner and unhook the orange colored timer box from the harness. If you want you can just install a jumper wire between the 2 white wires on the female end of the plug and the system will work just like all other cars without the theatre dimming option. I have cured several '80's with this same problem/fix.
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg

This is usually the part that goes bad on the '80. Remove the glove box liner and unhook the orange colored timer box from the harness. If you want you can just install a jumper wire between the 2 white wires on the female end of the plug and the system will work just like all other cars without the theatre dimming option. I have cured several '80's with this same problem/fix.
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(and stop saying "earth")
This is what it looks like on my 78
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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That's the bad boy right there! Great picture Ron
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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Thanks guys, so to fix it I remove the orange connector and fit a jumper between the two white wires or do I leave it in and fit the jumper before the connector?

Thanks
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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i had the same problem with mine. and it ended up being bubba. someone changed the starter and put and extra whire on the hot lead. this wire was small and supposed to go to a ground. i cant belive my car did not burn down!!!!! anyway make sure there are only 3 wires going to it
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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What color was that small wire?
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That's the bad boy right there! Great picture Ron
Thanks Greg! It was one of them "been there Done that" deals
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Originally Posted by Greg

This is usually the part that goes bad on the '80. Remove the glove box liner and unhook the orange colored timer box from the harness. If you want you can just install a jumper wire between the 2 white wires on the female end of the plug and the system will work just like all other cars without the theatre dimming option. I have cured several '80's with this same problem/fix.
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I was always taught that Ground is Ground the World Around, so if he wants to say earth - who cares? With all of the bad spelling and grammar here it does not matter, all we want to do is go fast and look good at it. This is a tech. forum, not a grade school. I'll leave the grammar lesson home, thank you.
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Originally Posted by more_cc's
Thanks guys, so to fix it I remove the orange connector and fit a jumper between the two white wires or do I leave it in and fit the jumper before the connector?

Thanks
Remove the orange box and fit a jumper wire into the connector in place of the box.
Greg
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cheers greg....

I'll let you know how I get on!!

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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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had same problem withmy 79 killing the battery all summer , turned out to be the door switch was not making contact even thoum door was closed interior lights were not always turning off
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Originally Posted by icanfixitforyou
I was always taught that Ground is Ground the World Around, so if he wants to say earth - who cares? With all of the bad spelling and grammar here it does not matter, all we want to do is go fast and look good at it. This is a tech. forum, not a grade school. I'll leave the grammar lesson home, thank you.
Earth ground has a refernce to radio....for better radio reception/transmit (usually on High Frequencies), an operator makes sure the radio has a good "earth ground", this also helps, as well, with lightning suppression....obviously, telephone, cable TV, electric companies also use the "earth ground" for lightning suppression....Corvettes?...no, no "earth ground" (rubber tires).....just "ground"
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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I'm using "earth" because at school we were taught how to wire a plug and in England where I'm from there is a yellow and green wire called the "earth" wire.

Either way the fact people know what I meant when I said "earth" means my use of the "english" language was successful which at the end of the day is the purpose of a language!
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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If it isn't the interior light timer, it may be the fuse block. I had a 1981 that had this problem. The bolt that holds the cabin side of the fuse block to the engine bay side of the fuse block was loose. It didn't make good contact. It would not charge the battery.

Tightened the bolt and it worked fine. Talk about a bear to diagnose.
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