Help with the 200r4 conversion
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Racer
Joined: Jul 2005
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From: North Little Rock Arkansas
Help with the 200r4 conversion
I talked to bowtie about converting to a 200r4 from a 400 and this is what they said i will need :
Listed Items
Qty
Cost
Transmission: 2004R Level 2
1
$1,050.00
Torque Converter: 2200 Heavy Duty
1
$175.00
Crossmember: Will Modify Own
1
$0.00
Shifter: 72-76 Corvette SC2402
1
$90.00
Inspection Cover: 2004R Univ. plastic
1
$25.00
Dipstick: 2004R
1
$30.00
TV System: Quadrajet [1902/1903/1904/1905/1906]
1
$109.95
TCC Wiring: TCC Brake Switch Kit
1
$28.00
Transmission Lines: Will Use Stock Ones,
0
$0.00
Speedometer Gears: 2004R Drive Gear Only 2004R Speedo Housing Drive Gear: 10 Driven Gear:
1
$60.84
Flex Plate: Will Use Stock One
0
$0.00
Installation Tools
Cost
Install Kit(Pressure Gauge Wht Temp Gauge Inline Filter)
$67.00
Misc Items
Cost
Level 2 discount
$-109.95
Will need to lengthen driveline
$0.00
Yoke
$68.00
Sub Total
$1,643.83
Tax
$0.00
S&H
$135.00
Total
$1,778.83
Does this sound right to you all that have dont the conversion?
Listed Items
Qty
Cost
Transmission: 2004R Level 2
1
$1,050.00
Torque Converter: 2200 Heavy Duty
1
$175.00
Crossmember: Will Modify Own
1
$0.00
Shifter: 72-76 Corvette SC2402
1
$90.00
Inspection Cover: 2004R Univ. plastic
1
$25.00
Dipstick: 2004R
1
$30.00
TV System: Quadrajet [1902/1903/1904/1905/1906]
1
$109.95
TCC Wiring: TCC Brake Switch Kit
1
$28.00
Transmission Lines: Will Use Stock Ones,
0
$0.00
Speedometer Gears: 2004R Drive Gear Only 2004R Speedo Housing Drive Gear: 10 Driven Gear:
1
$60.84
Flex Plate: Will Use Stock One
0
$0.00
Installation Tools
Cost
Install Kit(Pressure Gauge Wht Temp Gauge Inline Filter)
$67.00
Misc Items
Cost
Level 2 discount
$-109.95
Will need to lengthen driveline
$0.00
Yoke
$68.00
Sub Total
$1,643.83
Tax
$0.00
S&H
$135.00
Total
$1,778.83
Does this sound right to you all that have dont the conversion?
Race Director
Joined: Sep 2004
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From: Arlington Va Current ride 04 vert, previous vettes: 69 vert, 77 resto mod
i did the 700r4 conversion and i sourced my trans and torque converter locally....but the rest of the stuff including a crossmember was like $600...i did not need speedo gears, inspection cover, dipstick,yoke and i did get a new flexplate
so while i can't speak to the 2004r specifically it is in the ball park for an overdrive trans conversion
so while i can't speak to the 2004r specifically it is in the ball park for an overdrive trans conversion
Melting Slicks
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From: westland mi
do not get the inspection cover, supposedly it doesn't fit anyway, just modify yer old one and do not get the yoke, u can get it from yer auto parts for 1/2 the price. i got the new tranny lines, the old ones a lot of us had to cut off and there in no way similar. your price sounds good to me, i bought the level 3 and paid more for shipping. my total was around $2300
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Joined: Jan 2005
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From: Tucson Arizona
I did this exact 200r4 conversion from bowtie on my '71. I opted for the cooling lines and a rear poly mount. Bowtie was great to work with. I did not have to modify the cross member. Drive shaft legnth is the same, you will ned to rebalance with the new yoke. On my install the cooling lines were tight against the tunnel, I changed the transmission fitttings with some elblows and installed steel braided line and then connected to the hard lines.
I wish I could report on how much I like it, but I'm still working on finishing interior update. I seem to be stuck in "While I'm at It"
I wish I could report on how much I like it, but I'm still working on finishing interior update. I seem to be stuck in "While I'm at It"
Melting Slicks
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From: westland mi
Originally Posted by C371
I did this exact 200r4 conversion from bowtie on my '71. I opted for the cooling lines and a rear poly mount. Bowtie was great to work with. I did not have to modify the cross member. Drive shaft legnth is the same, you will ned to rebalance with the new yoke. On my install the cooling lines were tight against the tunnel, I changed the transmission fitttings with some elblows and installed steel braided line and then connected to the hard lines.
I wish I could report on how much I like it, but I'm still working on finishing interior update. I seem to be stuck in "While I'm at It"
I wish I could report on how much I like it, but I'm still working on finishing interior update. I seem to be stuck in "While I'm at It"
Last edited by rosslato; Mar 16, 2006 at 08:58 AM. Reason: to add
Racer
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From: Lurkerville
I e-mailed bowtie almost 2 weeks ago asking for every part needed for install on my 79. I have yet to receive a reply from them. I have read alot of people use them but so far for me I am not impressed. E-mail one more time, if I still dont get a reply I will look elsewhere.
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Melting Slicks
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From: westland mi
Originally Posted by My White 79
I e-mailed bowtie almost 2 weeks ago asking for every part needed for install on my 79. I have yet to receive a reply from them. I have read alot of people use them but so far for me I am not impressed. E-mail one more time, if I still dont get a reply I will look elsewhere.
Safety Car
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From: Minnesota
Originally Posted by My White 79
I e-mailed bowtie almost 2 weeks ago asking for every part needed for install on my 79. I have yet to receive a reply from them. I have read alot of people use them but so far for me I am not impressed. E-mail one more time, if I still dont get a reply I will look elsewhere.
Race Director
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From: Arlington Va Current ride 04 vert, previous vettes: 69 vert, 77 resto mod
Originally Posted by rosslato
and why do u have to rebalance your driveshaft? i didn't and it works perfect.
the yoke and driveshaft get balanced as an assembly
Safety Car
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From: Minnesota
I see they are recommending the 2200 stall for you too. I went with the 2400 for just a little more kick but still good streetablility.
BTW, if you can find a good 700R4 and money is tight I would consider it. The crossmember mod was no big deal. I'm no Jesse James and it only took me a couple of hours to accomplish.
BTW, if you can find a good 700R4 and money is tight I would consider it. The crossmember mod was no big deal. I'm no Jesse James and it only took me a couple of hours to accomplish.
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From: Arlington Va Current ride 04 vert, previous vettes: 69 vert, 77 resto mod
Originally Posted by jdmick
I see they are recommending the 2200 stall for you too. I went with the 2400 for just a little more kick but still good streetablility.
BTW, if you can find a good 700R4 and money is tight I would consider it. The crossmember mod was no big deal. I'm no Jesse James and it only took me a couple of hours to accomplish.
BTW, if you can find a good 700R4 and money is tight I would consider it. The crossmember mod was no big deal. I'm no Jesse James and it only took me a couple of hours to accomplish.
i went the easy way and it was $170 for a BTO cross member that makes it really easy for my dual exhaust....no more going through things
edit..i have the 700r4
Last edited by bobs77vet; Mar 16, 2006 at 09:35 PM.
Safety Car
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From: Central Michigan
That's about what I paid for the exact same set-up for my 68. Didn't have to do anything to the x member. Had to buy a combination u-joint to fit the yoke to the driveshaft. Cut 3" off the dipstick, bent the cooling lines, modified the supplied tv bracket for the acceleator cable. Swap went smoothly, you'll like the extra gear
Melting Slicks
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From: Dayton Oh
I did the TH350 to 2004R conversion on my 79 about 3 weeks ago with a Bowtie level 3. Very straight forward conversion without any issues. Lapse time on the conversion was 3 weekends but actual straight time was probably less than 8 hours due to several brewskies and buddies involved. I also wanted to take my time and make sure I checked every box that Bowtie needed to validate my warranty. The parts list that Bowtie gave ya sounds correct. 
Safety Car
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From: Waterford Mi
Not sure why you would have to change the crossmember or the driveshaft. The yoke and a universal is all you need. Both are standard auto part store items. Mine works great.
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From: Tucson Arizona
Originally Posted by rosslato
u didn't have to notch yer crossmember to get to the back bolt on the pan? and why do u have to rebalance your driveshaft? i didn't and it works perfect.