I Got One!!
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I Got One!!
A C4 Super Dana 44 that is 
woohooo...finally. Out goes the old diff, I had already started on modifying the batwing for a toe control setup but now w/ the C4 one it'll be easier to do. I can't wait to get it (it's in Germany) and mount it on the frame..no more weak POS diff for me
woohooo...finally. Out goes the old diff, I had already started on modifying the batwing for a toe control setup but now w/ the C4 one it'll be easier to do. I can't wait to get it (it's in Germany) and mount it on the frame..no more weak POS diff for me
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meaney is putting over 1200 ponies in his, surely his has been modified in some shape or form. I'm going to overhaul this one also, polish the case and such to make it more reliable. But if I don't dump the clutch it should be fine. The stocker is as weak as a wet noodle, I managed to wreck one w/ an almighty crossfire 
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
there are actually people that have never had their cars above 100mph... I used to know a few of them..I quickly parted ways, they are a bad influence
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St. Jude Donor '03,'11
Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
there are actually people that have never had their cars above 100mph... I used to know a few of them..I quickly parted ways, they are a bad influence
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From: Reno Nevada
2024 C3 of the Year Finalist- Modified
Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
I was gonna go with 1/8th front and rear toe in, 3/8 to
1/2 degree negative camber and about 2 1/2 positive caster or more.
1/2 degree negative camber and about 2 1/2 positive caster or more.
Toe in does create thrust because the tires are scrubbing. Zero toe rear and toe out from is for real lateral - G machines. I just have both front and rear at zero.
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St. Jude Donor '03,'11
Originally Posted by gkull
Front and rear toe in causes some self correcting factors while driving with your hads off of the steering wheel. Or for people that can't really drive and need a car that they can nearly be on auto pilot on straight roads.
Toe in does create thrust because the tires are scrubbing. Zero toe rear and toe out from is for real lateral - G machines. I just have both front and rear at zero.
Toe in does create thrust because the tires are scrubbing. Zero toe rear and toe out from is for real lateral - G machines. I just have both front and rear at zero.
TT,
My car is faster than yours. Thats a fact.
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Static toe out creates wandering exaggerated by wide tires and uneven roads and obstacles/bumps that the suspension has to negotiate. I kind of like the extra stability, the only time I'd opt for toe out was if it was for autocrossing or a road course, for the street losing the stability benefit of toe in is not an option IMO. This all because I want to drive on the street, sure a racer will sacrifice stability for just thta quicker bit of steering...but not on the street.
Excessive toe in creates tire scrub but so does toe out. Excessive inboard wear on toe out and excessive outboard wear on toe in.
What car of yours is faster? yes, your vette is faster than my vette (10 mph faster
) but I think my truck would kill your vette and it doesn't list like the herald of free turtleprise
Excessive toe in creates tire scrub but so does toe out. Excessive inboard wear on toe out and excessive outboard wear on toe in.
What car of yours is faster? yes, your vette is faster than my vette (10 mph faster
) but I think my truck would kill your vette and it doesn't list like the herald of free turtleprise
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St. Jude Donor '03,'11
Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
Static toe out creates wandering accegerated by wide tires and uneven roads and obstacles/bumps that the suspension has to negotiate. I kind of like the extra stability, the only time I'd opt for toe out was if it was for autocrossing or a road course, for the street losing the stability benefit of toe in is not an option IMO. This all because I want to drive on the street, sure a racer will sacrifice stability for just thta quicker bit of steering...but not on the street.
Excessive toe in creates tire scrub but so does toe out. Excessive inboard wear on toe out and excessive outboard wear on toe in.
What car of yours is faster? yes, your vette is faster than my vette (10 mph faster ) but I think my truck would kill your vette and it doesn't list like the herald of free turtleprise
Excessive toe in creates tire scrub but so does toe out. Excessive inboard wear on toe out and excessive outboard wear on toe in.
What car of yours is faster? yes, your vette is faster than my vette (10 mph faster
) but I think my truck would kill your vette and it doesn't list like the herald of free turtleprise My car lists but not as much as the majority of C3s. I was running 550/420 with 1 1/8 front bar in a lot of my picts. Your's would have listed more than mine before your mods if you were able to push as hard as i have. You just can't safely do that on the street.
If you want to run your truck (hell even your vette) on a road course with me i just might be able to finally gain some of your respect. But i guess i have to wait for you to get your competition license. You think you will ever pursue that?
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From: San Jose CA
Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
there are actually people that have never had their cars above 100mph... I used to know a few of them..I quickly parted ways, they are a bad influence
I say only, because I've done 135 in the pace car.
Can we be friends?