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Old May 25, 2006 | 07:17 AM
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I found this page:

I'm kind of confused, will the 4.11 gears and the 4.33 gears fit in a standard diff without upgrading anything else? What is meant by thick gears? Is 4.33 the biggest that you can go with a stock diff case?

Also while I'm in there should I rebuild the diff? Beef it up? Or are C3 diffs pretty stout? I plan to use nitrous in the near future and I have a manual trans but I won't be using slicks.

I saw some Posi Units on Van Steels website, 3 & 4. Is the 3 a stock style unit and the 4 a posi unit that accepts larger gears like 4.56? I'm lost.

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Old May 25, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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The thick gears mean it can be used on a 3 series carrier. Otherwise you will need a 4 series carrier to run a 4.11 or 4.56 or anything like that.

Yes the 3 series will run a 3.08 to a 3.73 GM gear or a thick gear 4.11 or higher. The 4 series will run a 4.11 or 4.56 NON thick gear.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 08:22 AM
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Will the 4 series carrier allow the use of the 3.08 or 3.36 gearsets ?
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Old May 25, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonys96
Will the 4 series carrier allow the use of the 3.08 or 3.36 gearsets ?
No you cannot use a 3 series gear on a 4 sereis carrier. The ring gear would be so thin it would have no strength left.
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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Thanks Gordonm

But what about strengthening/ rebuilding the diff while I'm in there? Any kits? Any suggestions?
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Old May 25, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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My rearend I'm sure, has the spacer and Richmond 4.11 in a series 3 case. It's worth getting the bigger main cap and better yokes
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Old May 25, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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better yokes?

sorry to thread jack, but can you explain the differences in yokes? I have my car at the mechanic's with a diff rebuild and am waiting for the Ecklers to get in the yokes which have been on back order for 4 weeks. I do plan on driving my vette like I stole it once it gets out of the shop so can you elaborate on the better yokes?

I think these are the yokes he is waiting for....

http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...dept%5Fid=1864

or

http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...dept%5Fid=1864

Thanks....

btw...the diff was an original 4.10 and now is in the process of being rebuilt into a 3.70 to match up better with the new 6 speed richmond tranny that they have installed if this helps any at all. I saw the old yokes and they were definitely shot needing replacement.

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Originally Posted by carpedm
better yokes?

sorry to thread jack, but can you explain the differences in yokes? .
These are the yokes that I have. Other Vendors probably sell the same thing. But I have made 100' upon 100's of 1/4 miles with slicks and general abusive driving for many many years. My stock ones were gone in with in 4-5 years when my 79 was still new with wimpy modded L-82 motors

http://www.madvet.com/shop?frame=1.303.1438
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$500 for yokes?!
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Originally Posted by torqvette
$500 for yokes?!
Well you could buy stock yokes for $99 that grind away and fill the rear end with powdered metal and destroy the whole case. Which happened to me. Tom's used to have a $375 core charge on buying a complete rear end housing minus yokes. I didn't get that $375 because the case went in a dumpster.

So to me spending $2000 on a rear end is cheaper in the long run. At the time they didn't have 12 bolts or I would have bought it.
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