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Old May 29, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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Picked up some QA1's for my race car.. Actually wanted to pick them up at Van Steel but they didn't have any in stock, so I picked up a set on the way up to the Cruise In at the Summit retail store in McDonough (Atlanta area)..
Installed them in the Hotel parking lot at the Cruise in and noticed that the tubes that come with the shock that go into the upper shock bushing are not the correct size and the suspension ended up being completly loose because there was too much movement without ever hitting the shock.. Now I only have 2 options..

a) Remove the tubes (which will be a pain) and get the correct ones
b) Drill out the upper shock mount holes for a bigger bolt to fit so that the shocks will be tight..

Don't know yet which solution is better? Any suggestions?
I talked to other people and some of them had the same problem with the wrong size tubes
Why aren't they able to supply the correct ones? If you pay $140 for a friggin shock, I'd expect that it'll fit!!
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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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Not to mention what a pain in the azz it was to change those things out in the first place. Someone was saying that you can press the sleeve out of the old shocks and install them in the new shocks.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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Those QA1 shocks have 1/2" eyelets most likely, just drill out the holes for a 1/2" bolt.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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Not to mention what a pain in the azz it was to change those things out in the first place. Someone was saying that you can press the sleeve out of the old shocks and install them in the new shocks.
I've tried that.. We tried to tap them out with a sledge hammer and they wouldn't move
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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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Those QA1 shocks have 1/2" eyelets most likely, just drill out the holes for a 1/2" bolt.
I noticed that.. Why the F would they supply 1/2" eyelets with the shocks if that is not the size that are used on C3's ???
They don't mention ANYTHING in the manual that they are the wrong size
If you spend that kind of money on shocks, you'd expect that it comes with parts that'll actually fit!!
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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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I think that budman78 has installed them before.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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Too bad that Van Steel was out of stock. I'd bet that they'd supply the correct eyelets with the shock as they have to be aware that the supplied ones are the wrong size...
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the shocks are 1/2" because that's a standard in aftermarket equipment. You're getting all wound up about a no brainer as a hole, take out the drill and get at it. If you want stuff to fit right out of the box buy original. That's what hot rodding is about, making stuff fit.
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
the shocks are 1/2" because that's a standard in aftermarket equipment. You're getting all wound up about a no brainer as a hole, take out the drill and get at it. If you want stuff to fit right out of the box buy original. That's what hot rodding is about, making stuff fit.
The main problem is that I had to pull out the QA1's again and re-install the original shocks at the track because I didn't have a cordless drill with me..

They should at least mention that it's the wrong size so that I'll know BEFORE installing them..
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Are the shocks specifically for a c3 corvette?? I think they are just a generic shock w/ the correct compressed and extended length to work on a vette. BTW, is this a front or rear shock you're talking about???
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
the shocks are 1/2" because that's a standard in aftermarket equipment. You're getting all wound up about a no brainer as a hole, take out the drill and get at it. If you want stuff to fit right out of the box buy original. That's what hot rodding is about, making stuff fit.

TT, sorry but I can't agree. If the shocks were sold as fitting a C3, then they should fit a C3! If the QA1s are generic in their mounting bracket then they should say so. When I buy an aftermarket cam or intake for my SBC, it darn sure better fit a SBC, and not need a hole drilled somewhere. QA1 needs to get the message that either their C3 shocks fit a C3 or we'll buy other brands. If they wish to loudly announce that their shocks may require the car to be modded for fitment, then that is also acceptable as the buyer assumes the responsability to make them fit. It should not be a surprise.
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You guys are too spoiled with your bolt on, direct fit stuff. The guy has a race car for crying out loud. Chopping holes in the car is not a problem but drilling a couple of holes for a shock is? It's not the shocks fault that it didn't fit, it's his own fault. If he had done the install sooner so he was actually ready for the CI then he would have known sooner something was not right. Having to work on a car in a hotel parking lot is just inviting trouble...regardless if it fits or not. I spent well over 1000$ on shocks...none of them fit. Maybe I should go compain about it

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Mine fit without any modifications that I remember. I might've drilled it out, but I don't remember doing it if I did.
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
You guys are too spoiled with your bolt on, direct fit stuff. The guy has a race car for crying out loud. Chopping holes in the car is not a problem but drilling a couple of holes for a shock is? It's not the shocks fault that it didn't fit, it's his own fault. If he had done the install sooner so he was actually ready for the CI then he would have known sooner something was not right. Having to work on a car in a hotel parking lot is just inviting trouble...regardless if it fits or not. I spent well over 1000$ on shocks...none of them fit. Maybe I should go compain about it


I NEVER load my track bike for the track unless it is 100% ready to go! I have test run it up to operating temp on the stand, installed the tire package, and set the baseline suspension setting for the destination track.

When it rolls out of the trailer it is ready for tech and the first practice session.

16:1 is a good ratio of prep to track time...

Caveat Emptor

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I have to say, you would think that swapping a couple shocks (stock replacement size) should be a matter of removing a couple of bolts. So I can understand why Oliver thought it would be no big deal to swap them before the race. I bought these shocks recently and had the same problem. I used a small socket the size of the shock sleeve and an extension in the socket to hit with a hammer. I then put the old sleeve in the new shock.
In Oliver's defense, things were happening pretty fast at the track and there wasn't much time for crap like this. That's what makes racing exciting!!!
-Patrick
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
Are the shocks specifically for a c3 corvette?? I think they are just a generic shock w/ the correct compressed and extended length to work on a vette. BTW, is this a front or rear shock you're talking about???
This shock is specifically for '63 - '82 Vettes.. It will not fit any other vehicle!!

BTW - I just drilled out the holes and used the 1/2 inch bolts.. Not really a problem but they should specify that you need to do that in the instructions!!
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Originally Posted by pef427
I have to say, you would think that swapping a couple shocks (stock replacement size) should be a matter of removing a couple of bolts. So I can understand why Oliver thought it would be no big deal to swap them before the race. I bought these shocks recently and had the same problem. I used a small socket the size of the shock sleeve and an extension in the socket to hit with a hammer. I then put the old sleeve in the new shock.
In Oliver's defense, things were happening pretty fast at the track and there wasn't much time for crap like this. That's what makes racing exciting!!!
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yeah, I had to change shocks at the track because of the fitment problem.. Only noticed that they were loose after my first pass after my rear kept bouncing

As I said... Drilling out the holes is not a big deal.. The only thing that I'm complaining is that the instructions didn't mention anything and those shocks are supposed to be direct fit for '63 to '82 Vettes!!

The same thing happened to me with the poly transmission mount.. The bolt required to hold the transmission mount was bigger than the holes in the crossmember on the '68. I believe that the hole size changed in '69..
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Mine came with sleeves that made them fit the upper mount with no drilling.
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Mine came with sleeves that made them fit the upper mount with no drilling.
Mine came with sleeves too! However, the sleeves were for 1/2 inch bolts and the bolt on the upper shock mount on C3's is smaller than that!
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