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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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the car in question is a 1977 L82, with a Rochester QJet Carb. The car idles fine and is fine through about the first 3500 rpms. From a stop with the pedal down to the floor the car takes off fine then about 4k rpms starts to get flooded(or no gas not sure which one), bogs down and almost stalls. Is this a rich or a lean condition or something else? and can the second set of barrels be adjusted by themselves?
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Could be a lot of things but it might be leaning out from lack of fuel. Fuel Pump maybe? Is it original?
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can it be the fuel pump even though it starts and run fine through the first 4000 rpms?
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Yes it can. It is providing enough fuel for just driving around but it cannot supply the demand for WOT. I had an old Camaro that would do the same thing. A run through the gears it would be OK in 1st and 2nd by the time I would out 3rd it had emptied the fuel bowl and just bogged down. A new HP fuel pump solved the problem. This might not be it but it is a common problem if your pump has some miles on it.
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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btw..it does intermitently backfire through the carb..which is supposed a lean condition...but...it also smells heavily of gas...which is a rich condition...so im kinda stumped. Is there an easy way to test the full pump?
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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Does it do it in neutral? I'm wondering if it has to do with the timing...
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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nope its fine in neutral? does that eliminate timing as an issue?
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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I think this is my problem. These "rods" can be adjusted correct?
The the problem that i am having just happened all of a sudden one day. Can these secondary rods just lose their settings in one day?(i.e tuesday everything fine, wednesday everything gone to hell??)


Incorrect Secondary Metering Rods
Results in: Poor WOT performance, sags or flat spots going into the secondary side, car “falling on its face” somewhere in the secondary range, smoke at WOT.
Comments: Since the secondary rods are so easy to change, they are frequently used as the “primary tuning tool” on a Q-Jet. This results in some pretty strange rods being installed. Make sure you know which rods are stock for your application, and make changes in small increments from there.
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Make sure your secondary butterfly valves are opening.
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Old Jun 30, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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The carburetor is running out of fuel. If the fuel pump is more than 3 years old change it. Their cheap. Just get a stock pump from NAPA. While you're doing this inspect the entire fuel system.

If you want to go a little richer on the secondaries it certainly couldn't hurt. You can get a CK rod from Edelbrock.

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If you want to bother, you can verify this by connecting a fuel pressure gauge at your carb inlet and taping it to your windshield. For my car, it revved in neutral no prob, but I could see the pressure drop to around 2.5psi at WOT under load.
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i tested the fuel pump by disconnecting the distributor primary leads and the fuel line to the carb, then tried to crank the engine. Nice spurts of fuel came out. What else should i check on the fuel system? btw, timing is set to 12 degress before TDC like the haynes manual says.
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Originally Posted by jerrypc
i tested the fuel pump by disconnecting the distributor primary leads and the fuel line to the carb, then tried to crank the engine. Nice spurts of fuel came out. What else should i check on the fuel system? btw, timing is set to 12 degress before TDC like the haynes manual says.
That is not the best test. You need to put in a fuel pressure gauge and run it through the gears at WOT and see if the fuel pressure drops. Doing it in nuetral does not require much fuel because there is no load on the engine.
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