Jeep steeering box question
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From: Waterloo ontario Canada
Originally Posted by Durango_boy
I have a power steering box from a 1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Will this work on my '77?
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Originally Posted by norvalwilhelm
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From: Columbia Missouri
Originally Posted by norvalwilhelm
NO NO. The jeep box you want didn't come out till I believe 1999 but Jim Shea could confirm this. I believe the 97 box is an old fashion design.
Okay, back into the parts bin it goes. I had it as a spare for my old Ramcharger.
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From: North NJ
This pic was on another thread from a member.
The hoses are close to the headers.
I know my manual steering box was very close to my hooker super comp side pipe headers.
I'm sure the extreme heat from the headers will cause some fluid boil and fatique.
I am considering the jeep install but would put some sparkplug heat socks on the power steering hoses to help prevent the headers from burning the fluid up. Probably double layer the sparkplug socks.
Anyone have a jeep box with sidepipes? pics?
anyone run into problems from header heat?
The hoses are close to the headers.
I know my manual steering box was very close to my hooker super comp side pipe headers.
I'm sure the extreme heat from the headers will cause some fluid boil and fatique.
I am considering the jeep install but would put some sparkplug heat socks on the power steering hoses to help prevent the headers from burning the fluid up. Probably double layer the sparkplug socks.
Anyone have a jeep box with sidepipes? pics?
anyone run into problems from header heat?
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From: Columbia Missouri
Originally Posted by norvalwilhelm
NO NO. The jeep box you want didn't come out till I believe 1999 but Jim Shea could confirm this. I believe the 97 box is an old fashion design.
Okay, so I'm looking for a 1999 box, but from a Cherokee or a Grand?
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From: Columbia Missouri
Originally Posted by 68 NJConv 454
Play it safe....yr 2000 and up Jeep steering box
If you do a search on the forum for "Jeep box" you will find more info on it and a better description of what you should be looking for.
If you do a search on the forum for "Jeep box" you will find more info on it and a better description of what you should be looking for.
Right, but from what? Wrangler? Cherokee? Grand?
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St. Jude Donor '05-'07
Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Right, but from what? Wrangler? Cherokee? Grand?
Melting Slicks
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wow that things a monster....i'm almost sure i will have header clearance problems with my hooker super comp side pipes if the pipes themselves are dimpled to clear the vette stock steering pump.
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Originally Posted by 68 NJConv 454
wow that things a monster....i'm almost sure i will have header clearance problems with my hooker super comp side pipes if the pipes themselves are dimpled to clear the vette stock steering pump.
I inserted a steel plate in my frame so I actually gained alot of extra clearance.
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There is a world of difference between a Cherokee and a Grand Cherokee steering system. They are two completely different vehicles.
You definately want the 1999 through 2004 Grand Cherokee power steering gear if you are going to attempt a conversion. It is the more modern Saginaw 600 gear. It is the only power Saginaw gear that has a mounting scheme that is at least close to the Corvette C2/C3 manual gear mounting.
I think that some people get confused with the previous generation Grand Cherokee power gear (1992 1/2 through 1998). It was a fast ratio Saginaw 700 gear. This gear was a direct bolt-in replacement for the old slow ratio Saginaw power gears that were used extensively on the 1960s and 70s GM muscle cars. So it has gained popularity with that generation of enthusiasts. Again this earlier version gear (and any of the Cherokee or Wrangler power gears) have no chance of fitting a C2/C3.
You might be interested in reading my thoughts on the 600 installation.
http://jimshea.corvettefaq.com/wp-co...erGearInC3.doc
Jim
You definately want the 1999 through 2004 Grand Cherokee power steering gear if you are going to attempt a conversion. It is the more modern Saginaw 600 gear. It is the only power Saginaw gear that has a mounting scheme that is at least close to the Corvette C2/C3 manual gear mounting.
I think that some people get confused with the previous generation Grand Cherokee power gear (1992 1/2 through 1998). It was a fast ratio Saginaw 700 gear. This gear was a direct bolt-in replacement for the old slow ratio Saginaw power gears that were used extensively on the 1960s and 70s GM muscle cars. So it has gained popularity with that generation of enthusiasts. Again this earlier version gear (and any of the Cherokee or Wrangler power gears) have no chance of fitting a C2/C3.
You might be interested in reading my thoughts on the 600 installation.
http://jimshea.corvettefaq.com/wp-co...erGearInC3.doc
Jim
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Originally Posted by Jim Shea
This gear was a direct bolt-in replacement for the old slow ratio Saginaw power gears that were used extensively on the 1960s and 70s GM muscle cars.
Good, I had originally planned on using the '97 GC box I have for my '71 Charger but I had not tested compatability. Once it's put back together I'll put it in and see how it looks. Good info.
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Originally Posted by norvalwilhelm
While it is bigger it is not thicker. If you go to the web site that has been posted a few times you will see the thickness of the box is the same as stock. Supposedly it sticks no further out from the frame then stock.
I inserted a steel plate in my frame so I actually gained alot of extra clearance.
I inserted a steel plate in my frame so I actually gained alot of extra clearance.
I too was thinking about reinforcing the frame around the steering box to avoid some flexing.
Is the side loading of these power steering units really that noticable while driving? I could understand you'd notice a difference b/w the steering box vs. rack&pinion if you were on a xcross track putting extreme loads in cornering.
Going to give Tom at corvette steering a call today and see what he's got.
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St. Jude Donor '05-'07
Originally Posted by 68 NJConv 454
Going to give Tom at corvette steering a call today and see what he's got.
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From: Waterloo ontario Canada
Originally Posted by BBShark
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