Hooker sidepipe mufflers
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Racer
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From: Okiehoma
Hooker sidepipe mufflers
Suggestions for other mufflers. I just bought a used sidepipe setup but it came with the hooker reverse flow mufflers which I heard are very restrictive to the engine. Hooker offers the glasspak and now a straight through design muffler. I know the spiral turbos are highly recommended, but any other recommendations. Noise is not a problem, I don't really have close neighbors.
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St. Jude Donor '05
I have 'sweet thunder' mufflers, they sound great and are 2 1/4". I'll eventually upgrade to Hooker's 2.5" mufflers because the sweet thunders will be restrictive once my 383 is built.
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From: Okiehoma
Originally Posted by RedBad1979
I have 'sweet thunder' mufflers, they sound great and are 2 1/4". I'll eventually upgrade to Hooker's 2.5" mufflers because the sweet thunders will be restrictive once my 383 is built.
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St. Jude Donor '05
Originally Posted by Tankers
I am also buying a 383, which hooker muffler will you use
I am thinking about making my own baffles, a 1" pipe and some 4" OD washers cut and bent to shape should do the trick ....
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Racer
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From: Forty Fort PA
I am about to install the mufflers in my side pipes and saw this thread. I bought the 21003 mufflers that are supposed to be for the BB. Hole is about 1 1/2 inches in diameter and only goes half way down. I am somewhat concerned with noise which is why I bought the reverse flows. Which mufflers fit and won't deafen the riders or the lookers and won't choke the engine? Who sells the sweet thunder?
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From: Orlando Florida
St. Jude Donor '05
Originally Posted by langg
I am about to install the mufflers in my side pipes and saw this thread. I bought the 21003 mufflers that are supposed to be for the BB. Hole is about 1 1/2 inches in diameter and only goes half way down. I am somewhat concerned with noise which is why I bought the reverse flows. Which mufflers fit and won't deafen the riders or the lookers and won't choke the engine? Who sells the sweet thunder?
They sound good (wife says they're too loud)
If you can wait a little you could buy my 2 1/4" inserts, PM me if interessted.
Team Owner
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From: Sorrento Italy
i've got hooker side mounts and i tried everything and only when i got to make a small custom lightweight muffler i had some good results, all other mufflers were in some way restrictive, specially at high rev (i mean over 4.500/5000 rpm), actually what i think is that maybe is the hooker side header to be the main restrictive factor!! could it be? some people say that the header is too long and have a to sharp bend...i'm going to get rid of this sistem any, it looks the business but does not flow the business
Racer
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From: Meridian, MS
i am getting my hooker side pipe system tommorow, i orderd this muffler...HOK-21046HKR. it is supposed to sound good and flow top notch. i know one person runing them and he likes them. tht is the summit racing part number.
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From: Meridian, MS
Originally Posted by rcastor426
i am getting my hooker side pipe system tommorow, i orderd this muffler...HOK-21046HKR. it is supposed to sound good and flow top notch. i know one person runing them and he likes them. tht is the summit racing part number.
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St. Jude Donor '05, '09, '15
I made a set of inserts from some chambered mufflers. I bought them from this company and modified them to fit. They now sell pre-made inserts. I like the ones I made. Sound good and the car runs much better than the reverse flows.
http://www.classicchambered.com/classic/products.html
http://www.classicchambered.com/classic/products.html
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From: Okiehoma
Originally Posted by Sky65
I made a set of inserts from some chambered mufflers. I bought them from this company and modified them to fit. They now sell pre-made inserts. I like the ones I made. Sound good and the car runs much better than the reverse flows.
http://www.classicchambered.com/classic/products.html
http://www.classicchambered.com/classic/products.html
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From: Breckenridge Colorado
Originally Posted by Tankers
Interesting site but I could not find the price for sidepipe mufflers.
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JCL Spiral Turbo Baffles are what I have.
www.spiralturbobaffles.com
They have been proven not to choke high HP motors. I can hear the radio fine even with the top down (until I floor it). Sometimes, you get what you pay for.
www.spiralturbobaffles.com
They have been proven not to choke high HP motors. I can hear the radio fine even with the top down (until I floor it). Sometimes, you get what you pay for.
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St. Jude Donor '05, '09, '15
Originally Posted by SteveG75
JCL Spiral Turbo Baffles are what I have.
www.spiralturbobaffles.com
They have been proven not to choke high HP motors. I can hear the radio fine even with the top down (until I floor it). Sometimes, you get what you pay for.
www.spiralturbobaffles.com
They have been proven not to choke high HP motors. I can hear the radio fine even with the top down (until I floor it). Sometimes, you get what you pay for.
There are performace numbers on the site for the chambered mufflers. Looks like there is a slight drop over open headers. The STB also have a slight drop over open headers on their site.
Either of these will be much better than the Hooker reverse flows. I like chambered but the STB have a good reputatiton. Tough call. I can only say I would do the chambered inserts again.
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St. Jude Donor '05
I'm not sure if I should start this discussion again, it's been beaten to death ... well, anyways....
Most if not all published dyno test data is based on highly modified big cube engines. The baffles perform very well on a 502, not much difference to open pipes. Now, that's great.... but will a 350SB benefit from the baffles as much ?
I have yet not seen any dyno comparison between glasspacks, reverse flow, chambered inserts and baffles on a stock or mildly modified SB......
Most if not all published dyno test data is based on highly modified big cube engines. The baffles perform very well on a 502, not much difference to open pipes. Now, that's great.... but will a 350SB benefit from the baffles as much ?
I have yet not seen any dyno comparison between glasspacks, reverse flow, chambered inserts and baffles on a stock or mildly modified SB......
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From: Breckenridge Colorado
Originally Posted by RedBad1979
I'm not sure if I should start this discussion again, it's been beaten to death ... well, anyways....
Most if not all published dyno test data is based on highly modified big cube engines. The baffles perform very well on a 502, not much difference to open pipes. Now, that's great.... but will a 350SB benefit from the baffles as much ?
I have yet not seen any dyno comparison between glasspacks, reverse flow, chambered inserts and baffles on a stock or mildly modified SB......
Most if not all published dyno test data is based on highly modified big cube engines. The baffles perform very well on a 502, not much difference to open pipes. Now, that's great.... but will a 350SB benefit from the baffles as much ?
I have yet not seen any dyno comparison between glasspacks, reverse flow, chambered inserts and baffles on a stock or mildly modified SB......
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From: Orlando Florida
St. Jude Donor '05
Originally Posted by MartyW
I won't be able to give you a dyno test, but I can definately tell that I lost a decent bit of HP when I switched from my high-flo true-duals to the Patriot H1060 sidepipes with standard glasspacks. I will be installing the JCL baffles next week and I will definately be able to tell you if the baffles got me my power back in my stroker 385 SB.