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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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Looking for the best bolt penetrants to use. and best methods you have found for removing old bolts. Want to strip Nd break as few as possible. I hear WD40 isn't the best choice.
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Looking for the best bolt penetrants to use. and best methods you have found for removing old bolts. Want to strip Nd break as few as possible. I hear WD40 isn't the best choice.

P B Blast. hands down one of the best and found at ANY Oreilly and maybe Autozones.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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P.B. Blaster is good and readily available. Kroil is better and available from several dealers. Do a Google search on "Kroil"
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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P.B. Blaster is good and readily available. Kroil is better and available from several dealers. Do a Google search on "Kroil"

Hmm...looks promising. I'd never heard of Kroil before. Good suggestion.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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Another vote for Kroll and PB Blaster.
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Another vote for Kroll and PB Blaster.

Mmm...the smell of fresh P B Blaster in the afternoon. Not much is better...

No matter what you use, always spray and let it soak for a day or so, and several applications is always preferred.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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Seafoam Deep Creep
Best I have ever used ...no comparison even to Kroil which is a great product.
Seafoam makes great products

PB smells exactly like liquid Wrench which both work good as well
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Originally Posted by Bob Onit
Seafoam Deep Creep
Best I have ever used ...no comparison even with Kroil
Seafoam makes great products

PB smells exactly like liquid Wrench which both work good as well

Who are some sellers of Seafoam Deep Creep? I've like to give it a try.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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Sili Kroil is the best by far. I have a can out in the shed if you want I can email you their address. I just removed my motor last weekend. The exhaust manifold bolts were all rusted and nasty looking. I sprayed them with Sili kroil for 3 days in a row and then on the 4th day I tried to remove the bolts again, they came right off.
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Originally Posted by Richard Cooper
Sili Kroil is the best by far. I have a can out in the shed if you want I can email you their address. I just removed my motor last weekend. The exhaust manifold bolts were all rusted and nasty looking. I sprayed them with Sili kroil for 3 days in a row and then on the 4th day I tried to remove the bolts again, they came right off.

I don't know if this is a good price, but here's a Kroil link:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...3Doff%26sa%3DG
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Onit
Seafoam Deep Creep
Best I have ever used ...no comparison even to Kroil which is a great product.
Seafoam makes great products

PB smells exactly like liquid Wrench which both work good as well
I thought nothing could beat pb blaster until someone gave me a can of deep creep, that is all we use in our shop now
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Originally Posted by gator79
I thought nothing could beat pb blaster until someone gave me a can of deep creep, that is all we use in our shop now

Seems it can be ordered from Napa, Oreilly, Advance and a few other local parts retailers.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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Orscheln carries the Seafoam engine/fuel system cleaner (the best stuff out there), they might have the deep creep. I just use PB blaster and heat. Nothing like the smell of burning PB blaster in the morning...
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
Orscheln carries the Seafoam engine/fuel system cleaner (the best stuff out there), they might have the deep creep. I just use PB blaster and heat. Nothing like the smell of burning PB blaster in the morning...

Eww...I think I just threw up a little in my mouth...
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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But you have to ask the question: How do they work. On an exhaust manifold bolt for example. You spray them on but how does the fluid work its way into the inner threads of the bolt. Those bolts are seized on solid. Just spraying the outside does not seem to make much sense.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by paul67
But you have to ask the question: How do they work. On an exhaust manifold bolt for example. You spray them on but how does the fluid work its way into the inner threads of the bolt. Those bolts are seized on solid. Just spraying the outside does not seem to make much sense.

That's why they call it penetrating oil. It's an oil, with rust breaking chemistry. It's an oil, so it seeps into tiny holes and pits, slowly eating away the rust and crap. It won't work immediately, but after a few days of being soaked, the oil make it through enough of the rust to allow you to break it loose. Once it's broken, it comes with little effort.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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Kroil or Sili Kroil is by far the best you can buy

This is the manufacturer: www.kanolabs.com

From their website:

Try any Kano product with no risk to you. If it ever fails to meet your expectations we will immediately cancel the charge. It costs you nothing! ------ There is no risk to you! ------



wow, I wonder if they know about our trailing arms.....
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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There are occasions where a bolt is so rusted that no penetrating oil will free it up, but I have had good success with PB Blaster. You have to have a lot of patience when working with 30+ year old fasteners. I've heard that Kroil is better than PB but it isn't as readily available so I haven't tried it. The Seafoam product sounds interesting - if I can find some localy I'll give it a try.



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Originally Posted by 72LS1Vette
The Seafoam product sounds interesting - if I can find some localy I'll give it a try.



Rick B.

If you have a Napa, Oreilly, or Advance, call them and see if they can order it. Then just stop by and pick it up. Nuff said.
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Originally Posted by paul67
But you have to ask the question: How do they work. On an exhaust manifold bolt for example. You spray them on but how does the fluid work its way into the inner threads of the bolt. Those bolts are seized on solid. Just spraying the outside does not seem to make much sense.
try this spray some penetrating oil on the workbench and put the threads of a bolt in the oil, it will actually climb up the threads,at least the good ones will, hence the name Deep Creep, that is how they work. it works it's way into the threads and breaks the rust loose. I srayed the power steering pump shaft on my 71 with deep creep and the next day I removed the nut and took the pulley off by hand after 35 years
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