C3 rear Turbos
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boost is not a good measurement of performance, if you have a lot of boost that could also mean your intake system is restrictive, better to have a good flowing intake and low boost..it's cyl. pressure that it's all about...boost is for ricers to brag about. All it does is heat up the intake charge.
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Originally Posted by BerniesVette
Those of you that are using STS, did you install twin turbos or run one pipe back and one pie forward and where and how did you mount the air filter to protect it from road dirt and possible water?
Bernie
Bernie
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From: California
Originally Posted by hensen1954
Is the STS system for injected engines only - or will it work on a standard C3 engine ????
There is an artical on this exact issue in October issue of Vette magazine. "Early Aspirations". Carberator and distributor motor in C3 turbo research vehcile by gm.
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Originally Posted by turtlevette
intake restrictive on an LS1? You're grasping at straws now.
I don't know as much as you but i know when your BSing us.
What skin is it off your nose anyway. His system makes enough hp for what he wants, easy to install and reliable.
He doesn't have to hack up his whole engine compartment to have turbos so he can restore the car to stock rather easily.
Lots of positives. And he's out enjoying his car. Guys that have done up front C3 turbos are nowhere to be found. I don't see any videos or timeslips or road course lap times.
I don't know as much as you but i know when your BSing us.
What skin is it off your nose anyway. His system makes enough hp for what he wants, easy to install and reliable.
He doesn't have to hack up his whole engine compartment to have turbos so he can restore the car to stock rather easily.
Lots of positives. And he's out enjoying his car. Guys that have done up front C3 turbos are nowhere to be found. I don't see any videos or timeslips or road course lap times.
As for hacking up the engine compartment, my turbo system fits in a complete stock engine compartment with room to spare. Justg et the **** off my case man...don't you have any rust to fix?
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From: eville in
Originally Posted by TTZ06
I just upgraded my turbos a week or so ago and put pics up on the other board if you're interested, they help show the locations piping and intake tubing. The air cleaner is way up in the rear facia behind the tail lights. The filter is changed by removing the tail light for easy acess to the hose clamp.
http://www.z06vette.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102064
http://www.z06vette.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102064
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St. Jude Donor '03,'11
Originally Posted by my72vette454
I have my turbos mounted off the rear corners of the motor in the fenders,
Turbos, 700.00
Wastegates, 500.00
Blow off valve, 200.00
Exhaust parts, 900.00
cold side, 1,000.00
carb mods, 100.00
fuel system, 1,000.00
The look on the face of whomever the passenger is when the tires break loose in third gear at o say 65 mph or so........priceless .
Turbos, 700.00
Wastegates, 500.00
Blow off valve, 200.00
Exhaust parts, 900.00
cold side, 1,000.00
carb mods, 100.00
fuel system, 1,000.00
The look on the face of whomever the passenger is when the tires break loose in third gear at o say 65 mph or so........priceless .
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From: California
Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
How large are those turbos? (what are they..didn't read the text...just scanned over the images)
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
boost is not a good measurement of performance, if you have a lot of boost that could also mean your intake system is restrictive, better to have a good flowing intake and low boost..it's cyl. pressure that it's all about...boost is for ricers to brag about. All it does is heat up the intake charge.
Last edited by TTZ06; Sep 23, 2006 at 04:00 PM.
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You are always on my case....and I don't see why, I don't need you giving me a hard time. It's hard enough getting this damned thing done here. I don't think you completely understand what a mammoth task it actually is. I'm like inventing the wheel on my own here, I have absolutely no backup, no shop to go to, no one to consult apart from this forum and reading literature. It's hard enough without someone always trying to put it doiwn and nagging I'm slow and what not. It's getting so damn annoying that I've even contenplated not posting anymore just to spare myself the aggrevation. I don't give a flying F if you give others a hard time. Do you see others giving you a hard time also?
No one said the rear mount does not work, it's about efficiency.
As for criticsm on designs, I can handle that..but you are constantly searching for thigns...take the gas tank comment, you clearly have no clue how light a fuel cell is, the sheet metal container is very thin, unlike the stamped steel stock tank.
I'm not looking for praise and worship but I'm certainly not looking for smartass comments only meant to **** me off. I'm not the one to shy a good discussion..but it has to be a discussion based on soemthing constructive..not putting something down.
No one said the rear mount does not work, it's about efficiency.
As for criticsm on designs, I can handle that..but you are constantly searching for thigns...take the gas tank comment, you clearly have no clue how light a fuel cell is, the sheet metal container is very thin, unlike the stamped steel stock tank.
I'm not looking for praise and worship but I'm certainly not looking for smartass comments only meant to **** me off. I'm not the one to shy a good discussion..but it has to be a discussion based on soemthing constructive..not putting something down.
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St. Jude Donor '07
Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
boost is not a good measurement of performance, if you have a lot of boost that could also mean your intake system is restrictive, better to have a good flowing intake and low boost..it's cyl. pressure that it's all about...boost is for ricers to brag about. All it does is heat up the intake charge.
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From: Montreal Qc.
Originally Posted by SmokedTires
Come on guys, move this to private message so an informative post doesn't have to be locked 
This post had loads of interesting tech/perf info before it got personal. I saw that Musclecar show in question (C6 with the sts turbos) and this thread answered many questions I had about the product, especially regarding boost, turbo-lag, and cooling/lubrication issues.Bottom line: packaging concerns in C5/C6 engine bay necessitated "outside the box" thinking on forced induction. STS has created an affordable and weekend-mechanic-friendly and wallet-friendly installation that delivers on what it promises. Real-world and high-mileage reliability is still very much in question, as is the applicability of the technology to other platforms (C3, since that is where we are now).
As to the guy with the huge burnout on the TV show, well I can do that with just about any car that has 400+ HP and TQ W/O turbocharging.
So yeah, pls don't lock, good info here for all.
