I'm going to fit a Hydroboost system and a Jeep box to my 82. I've trawled all over the forum and have found loads of help in how to bolt it on etc, but very little about the hoses.

Norval wrote this...
But... I couldn't find ANYTHING by Allstar at Coleman Racing. Also, what is standard #6 line? If I get the fittings and "standard #6 line" how are the fittings attached on the ends?

Could someone please take the time to spoon feed me a bit please? I'd really like to know that I need a hose X long with Y fitting on one end for the power steering pump and Z fitting on the other end for the hydro AND a hose X long with Y fitting for the hydro and Z long for the Jeep box.

The location under my avtar is true, I AM in Saudi Arabia. There is no Yellow Pages here so I can't just phone up some Hose Manufacturers. The "after market" auto shops specialise in bling, roof racks, seat covers and wiper blades. The "genuine" spares shops can't think out of the box - if you want a specific part for a specific year, you MIGHT get lucky. If you're trying to retro fit something from another model/year car, you stand a good chance of rupturing a blood vessel in frustration! Most people don't speak particularly good English anyway so you can spend ages trying to explain what you want just to get a blank stare OR they'll bring out a part that has nothing to do with what you just explained to them. And that's just the first shop - the rest are the same or worse! If I tried asking for the location of shop who made hoses, the law of averages says that I would eventually find someone who would "know" what I was talking about and give me directions to a shop - it would, of course, turn out to be a shop that made garden hoses or shower fittings. BUT... that could only be found out by spending all day trying to find the shop you were given directions to in the first place!!!

I could go on and on, but suffice to say, I'm not even going to bother trying to get hoses made here. Anything I do get will be bought online from the US so it's weeks after I buy them that I actually receive them so I'd like to be able to get the right bits the first time. I don't have a hydro unit yet (it's in the mail, thanks Durango_boy ) so I can't look at it or "dry fit" it and the Jeep box. But I want to get the hoses sorted now so that I'll have them when the hydro unit arrives.

I'm not an idiot but this is the first time I've ever modified a braking system and I'd really like to get it right - lightning fast reaction times AND good brakes are needed out here. And, I'm not lazy - I spent hours last night looking through the forum and still only found some info.

I await open mouthed for your spoon feeding...

Thanks

 

This may help a bit:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...p?t=1502711#19

I did a little bit of research after I got my hydroboost unit, but I won't be making the hoses or getting any of the hardware until I put the steering back in (which will be a while!). I believe this lists about all of the hardware.

 

Thanks nihil, I appreciate it

Do you happen to know what the fitting is that goes into the Jeep box, as I'm not going to be using the PS conttrol valve...

 

Do you have a tractor or over the road truck supply house around hydraulic lines will work just fine.

JIC are the same as AN fittings and if you dont have to have ss braided lines a hundred bucks should get you a nice set of 4200psi crimped lines for the pressure lines and Power steering return hose or AQP or Earls socketless hose for the returns.

you can have the shop give you a couple of uncrimped 90 degree ends and some stright ends to make sure you get the indexing correct if you need 2 90's.

Get a piece of elcheapo PVC tubing to make mockups of the real hoses, use a sharpie to index mark the hose and the fitting so that the shop can copy. This also helps deal with the natural curvature of the hose/routing in tight spaces..

Ther are a number of great posts on this subject in the archives sorry I dont have better pics.

 

Try hydratechbraking.com, they have everything that is needed to make the hoses. There site is also a good referance. They do not have the best prices but are not to far off. I have used Jegs, summitracing, speedwaymotors for my hose parts. Hydratech has very good parts descriptions as to what they will fit and what is needed.
I am not sure what fitting is needed for the jeep box.
Try this thread it might help:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ght=hydraboost

You might contact Hydratech and ask if they will sell the line set to you. I asked a year ago and they would not sell just the line set to me but than again they would not sell me the fittings either and now they do.

Neal

 

Saudi, you need just look local parts houses for hoses from maybe an Astro Van, or any 3/4 ton up van with HB on it....I have a rack and used the old original hoses that came with the HB tearout.....

they worked fine with very little modifications....just a few bends and to do that, I put a phillips screwdriver in the steel fitting and leaned into it.....works fine.....

 

Ok, thanks guys. I appreciate the help

I've put this schematic together. Can some of you who've done the mod check it over for me please?




One last question, what size is the return line hole on the hydroboost? That's the only fitting I don't know.

Thanks again...

 

5/16-24 O-ring Male to AN-6 Male

Its a special fitting for the HB, I've not been able to find it any were else. Or the factory fitting is a barb fitting with the same threaded size.

Neal

 

I like the schematic. right click... save as...

 

Thanks Neal. I've been looking at Hydratech's website and they have one of those fittings

HYDRATECH 9100 LOW PROFILE RETURN LINE HOSE END




Ta mate, I had to get the system down on "paper" to get it straight in my own head. You can add that fitting now that Neal mentioned!

 

Saudi - This is a great drawing, but something I noticed, is a flaw in the plan. You don't account for the seering control valve, and the Hydro has a high pressure line that goes to this control valve. You don;'t have this on your schematic.

 

Its replaced with the jeep box.

 

Sorry mate, because I'll be fitting a Jeep box too, I didn't bother with the control valve in the schematic. I was just trying to sort out the system I needed...

 

Gotcha...just wanted to make sure it didn't get forgotten. Sorry to second guess you...I was just thinking is all.

 

No probs at all...

 

By the way, my new Hydro showed up last night and it was shipped same day as yours. I'd bet your is near NY by now.

 

There's a package showed up today in my mail box that's 19lbs so I'm assuming it's there already.

Unless I ordered something else that heavy and can't remember...

Man, I've been looking around to get the fittings to make all the hoses and they are NOT cheap! The last time I went all braided on a car, the Air Force "sponsored" it. I want to go all blue/red anodized fittings and braided again for this project and I think it's gonna cost a pretty penny....

 

Yeah, that's probably it...mine was same weight was that.

Did you get my email about the 1994 Astro Van pressure lines? Both can be had for $35, and then shipped to your NY box.

 

Ummm.... I can't remember the e-mail to tell the truth! But anyway, I still want to go all braided and anodized fittings.

Thanks though

 

Yeah, I don't blame you. The S/S braided lines were worth every penny. Smooth, strong, and easy to work with. Cleanign them may prove interesting though once they get some road grime on them.