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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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C4 Convertibles have an x brace underneath to strengthen the frame from flexing.

Anyone tried this on a C3 Vert?
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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I have been looking at doing it on my coupe but the exhaust is a problem. I think you would want to change the trans crossmember to accomodate the X crossmember. you would want to run the exhaust under the crossmembers and straightened it out or cut and turn it out. I have been thinking of doing it myself but it looks complicated.
I hope others have done it.
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Originally Posted by flynhi
C4 Convertibles have an x brace underneath to strengthen the frame from flexing.

Anyone tried this on a C3 Vert?
Ever see what the cross-brace looks like after a few years of bottoming out on speed-bumps? The C-4 brace is about 1.5 inches tall. Not enough room under the floor-pan, IMO. Now if it is to be a road-corse only 'Vette with stiff springs and shocks...I would attempt it.
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What about designing it so that the crossing point of the x brace occurs at the center of the crossmember and is anchored with a bolt through the crossmember? With end points bolted to the frame rails, seems like this would work.
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Originally Posted by flynhi
What about designing it so that the crossing point of the x brace occurs at the center of the crossmember and is anchored with a bolt through the crossmember? With end points bolted to the frame rails, seems like this would work.
The problems lies with the floor-pan, which is about level with the frame. The brace, which on the C-4 is convoluted for strength, would decrease the road clearance. I thought about incorporating the cross-member, but the issue again is the floor-boards. I believe the situation is more critical on C-4 'Verts, as it has no intermediate cross-member like the C-3.
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Since these x brace members are either in tension or compression, seems like a piece of 5/8" x 2" bar stock would do the trick: plenty strong in tension and enough cross section to not bend in compression.

Losing 5/8 road clearance shouldn't be a problem.

Whatcha think, Big G?
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Originally Posted by flynhi
Since these x brace members are either in tension or compression, seems like a piece of 5/8" x 2" bar stock would do the trick: plenty strong in tension and enough cross section to not bend in compression.

Losing 5/8 road clearance shouldn't be a problem.

Whatcha think, Big G?
I'm not an engineer, but I think there is a torsional (sp) component within the design of the C-4 brace. If you were to use bar stock, I think it would twist as the frame does, and 1 length will be under compression..
Also, if you note the cross-brace is also bolted to the floor-boards in 4 places.

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Isn't the C-4 x brace composed of round bars similar to anti roll bars?
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The C4 brace is not really a good example of a cross brace for a C3. A C4 is only sort of like a full frame car (like a C3). The quick fix for full frame rigidity has historically been a roll cage. The key to a roll cage stiffness is height. This is why a (basically horizontal) full frame X brace does not really stiffen a full frame.

On a convertible C3, you could probably stiffen the frame rails with a vertical brace that went behind the seats.
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Makes sense, BBShark.
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