C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

engine tuning

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 5, 2006 | 10:23 PM
  #1  
steve dalla's Avatar
steve dalla
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 232
Likes: 0
From: fairfax va
Default engine tuning

hello, this is my first post. i love the site and all the imformation u guys share! 1980 corvette, 350L48 bottom end,xe-268 cam, gm head 58cc 2.02-1.60.edelrpm intake, 600 holley. th350 trans,3.73rear. car runs ok but kind of goes flat in upper rpms.my plugs stay white i have put bigger jets didnt help.holley110gph pumpw-reg@7psi. is the carb to small? any advice would be great. what kind of power should this make? 1\4 mile est.
Reply
Old Nov 5, 2006 | 10:25 PM
  #2  
evil herbavore's Avatar
evil herbavore
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 787
Likes: 0
Default

Ignition curve, fuel filter, dirty sock in tank....
Reply
Old Nov 5, 2006 | 11:44 PM
  #3  
dgruenke's Avatar
dgruenke
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,716
Likes: 4
From: New Baden Illinois
Default

Originally Posted by steve dalla
hello, this is my first post. i love the site and all the imformation u guys share! 1980 corvette, 350L48 bottom end,xe-268 cam, gm head 58cc 2.02-1.60.edelrpm intake, 600 holley. th350 trans,3.73rear. car runs ok but kind of goes flat in upper rpms.my plugs stay white i have put bigger jets didnt help.holley110gph pumpw-reg@7psi. is the carb to small? any advice would be great. what kind of power should this make? 1\4 mile est.
What are the upper RPM's that you are talking about. I don't know which head you are referring to, but I assume that you are talking about the L98 head because you said 58cc. If so, the L98 heads are only good for low RPM torque. They don't flow well enough at higher RPM's.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 08:00 AM
  #4  
steve dalla's Avatar
steve dalla
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 232
Likes: 0
From: fairfax va
Default engine tuning

it goes flat at about 4000-4200 it seems most dramatic in 1st gear. thank youfor your responce.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 01:03 PM
  #5  
lars's Avatar
lars
Tech Contributor
Supporting Lifetime Gold
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
Photogenic
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 14,382
Likes: 6,402
From: At my Bar drinking and wrenching in Lafayette Colorado
Default

Install the short white spring in your secondary diaphragm - the stock spring will not allow your secondaries to fully open. If you have a 4150 carb, run your secondary jetting 8 sizes larges than the primary. Make sure your float levels ar right up to the bottom of the sight hole. Are you running 36 degrees of timing? That's the frist thing to verify.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 01:26 PM
  #6  
OregonVette80's Avatar
OregonVette80
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 830
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by steve dalla
hello, this is my first post. i love the site and all the imformation u guys share! any advice would be great. what kind of power should this make? 1\4 mile est.

Steve, welcome aboard!
I too have an 80 350cu in, brand spankin new edelbrock performerEPS intake, 600 cfm edelbrock performer carb, slightly increased cam & shorty headers to a Y pipe, free flow cat & 3" exhaust to the tips.

I just came back from the dyno. While thinking I would pull around 240 to 260 on the dyno because of the improvements listed above, I was quite shocked to pull 182rwHP, 3 consecutive tries...182

So, in order to bump the HP into a bit more of a performance catagory, I am planning on full long tube headers and 62 Edelbrock aluminum heads.
Hopefully these two alterations will finally let the air comming in have a decent place to go, thus increasing those anemic HP numbers.


Please keep in mind that the RWHP dyno takes off about 10-15% HP when you have an Automatic. So, yes HP at the crank would probably run 230-ish. But at the rearwheels with an Automatic, 182RwHP.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 01:37 PM
  #7  
lars's Avatar
lars
Tech Contributor
Supporting Lifetime Gold
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
Photogenic
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 14,382
Likes: 6,402
From: At my Bar drinking and wrenching in Lafayette Colorado
Default

Originally Posted by OregonVette80
RWHP dyno takes off about 10-15% HP when you have an Automatic.
..actually, it's closer to 20%. Manuals are in the 15% range.
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 01:47 PM
  #8  
OregonVette80's Avatar
OregonVette80
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 830
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by lars
..actually, it's closer to 20%. Manuals are in the 15% range.
Thanks Lars, you're making me feel better!
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 04:48 PM
  #9  
steve dalla's Avatar
steve dalla
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 232
Likes: 0
From: fairfax va
Default engine tune

hey lars , i had timing at 38total. i will change to 36.carb is 600 vac.secondaries thanks for the tip on springs. 600cfm is the right size?
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 04:54 PM
  #10  
steve dalla's Avatar
steve dalla
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 232
Likes: 0
From: fairfax va
Default engine tune

have you ever been to dragstrip? my best 1-4mi is 14.2 @94. needless to say i wasnt exactly thrilled. my setup is posted above what kind of times would yall predict?
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 05:07 PM
  #11  
OregonVette80's Avatar
OregonVette80
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 830
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by steve dalla
have you ever been to dragstrip? what kind of times would yall predict?
I'll find out in a few weeks. I'll post my results. With such tall gears on an Automatic, I'm not sure I'd "crush" the competition quite yet!


AP
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 05:16 PM
  #12  
lars's Avatar
lars
Tech Contributor
Supporting Lifetime Gold
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
Photogenic
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 14,382
Likes: 6,402
From: At my Bar drinking and wrenching in Lafayette Colorado
Default

Originally Posted by steve dalla
hey lars , i had timing at 38total. i will change to 36.carb is 600 vac.secondaries thanks for the tip on springs. 600cfm is the right size?
38 total will run well on a low comression engine, but you may find that you'll develop better peak power at the 36 setting. It won't be a big change, though.

The short white secondary spring will get you an advantage and should help. The 600 cfm carb is smaller than what I usually run on an engine like that - I like the 750 on any performance engine in the 350-400 cubic inches range (and there are people here who will argue that one, but that's what I like to run). Yet, the 600 will give you a nice level of performance (heck, the NASCAR guys run 390's...).
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:05 PM
  #13  
steve dalla's Avatar
steve dalla
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 232
Likes: 0
From: fairfax va
Default nascar 390cfm

please explain how that is possible
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:49 PM
  #14  
BigBlockk's Avatar
BigBlockk
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,959
Likes: 1
From: North Bend Ohio
Default

Originally Posted by steve dalla
please explain how that is possible
Cubic dollars.

BigBlockk

Later.....
Reply
Old Nov 6, 2006 | 11:29 PM
  #15  
lars's Avatar
lars
Tech Contributor
Supporting Lifetime Gold
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
Photogenic
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 14,382
Likes: 6,402
From: At my Bar drinking and wrenching in Lafayette Colorado
Default

Originally Posted by BigBlockk
Cubic dollars.

BigBlockk

Later.....
Yup. And you spin the engine at 8,000-9,000 rpm. If you figure the 9,000 rpm number and knowing the horsepower they're putting out, you'll see that the engines are actually down a bit on torque due to the carb limitation. If you let those guys run 1150's, you'd see horsepower numbers simply staggering.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To engine tuning





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:13 PM.

story-0
5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 most overrated Corvette track packages ever.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:46:45


VIEW MORE
story-1
Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

Slideshow: Every 2027 Corvette engine explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:16:31


VIEW MORE
story-2
Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

Slideshow: A Jaguar designer's personal project imagines what a modern front-engined Corvette might look like if Chevrolet revisited the golden age of the Stingray.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-08 19:53:43


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-6
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-8
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE