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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 02:00 AM
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After draining my radiator, I noticed white crystal-like deposits around the core passages. They're everywhere! The car was sitting for 15 years; the fluid was still green (but I didn't drain the block yet). Has this radiator, and probably heater core, seen their better days? I mean, how long do these things typically last?
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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You could have the radiator check by a local rad. shop to see if it can be boiled out and reused. I would buy a Dewitts aluminum rad. and be done with it!
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Unless you are trying to keep the car all original I agree with Bernie, install a new DeWitts and be done with it.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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When it comes to "looking original" you would be amazed at what black paint does. We offer a two part epoxy coat that is specifically made for us and when it dries it looks like powder coat. The cost is $30, which is the same as two spray bombs of Eastwood radiator paint that never seems to totally dry.
Every swap meet we do someone gets confused over the display radiators that have the Black Ice coat. I guess it's some kind of psycological thing that the "black" to the eye tells the brain it's "copper". Anyway, many people have told me the aluminum radiators passed judging because the judge thought it was the real deal. See what I mean...

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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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Tom. If I wanted to repaint my rad for instance...do you sell just the two part epoxy black ice paint? Thanks.
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Tom. If I wanted to repaint my rad for instance...do you sell just the two part epoxy black ice paint? Thanks.
No, we buy it in 30 gallon drums.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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Thanks. Nothing original about this car. Flex fan is about 3" away from shroud; no air dam, vacuum hoses plugged, no air pump, egr blocked off; makes me wonder what the engine has been through. That just gives me an excuse to make it what I want! I'm still trying to comprehend how aluminum conducts heat better than copper. Usually, electric and heat conductors coincide. Copper conducts electricity better than aluminum. Besides weight, wouldn't copper (and its alloys bronze, brass) be a better material(s) for radiators?
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by gkz
Thanks. Nothing original about this car. Flex fan is about 3" away from shroud; no air dam, vacuum hoses plugged, no air pump, egr blocked off; makes me wonder what the engine has been through. That just gives me an excuse to make it what I want! I'm still trying to comprehend how aluminum conducts heat better than copper. Usually, electric and heat conductors coincide. Copper conducts electricity better than aluminum. Besides weight, wouldn't copper (and its alloys bronze, brass) be a better material(s) for radiators?
You're right. Copper does conduct heat better. The difference is that there is a lot of solder that connects the fins, tubes and tanks. This makes the alum rad, as an assembly conduct better.
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You're right. Copper does conduct heat better. The difference is that there is a lot of solder that connects the fins, tubes and tanks. This makes the alum rad, as an assembly conduct better.

So the aluminum radiator still conducts better even if they are painted?
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
So the aluminum radiator still conducts better even if they are painted?
I don't know about aluminum and paint.

On a brass rad the special rad paint prevents a lot of oxidation and supposedly doesn't inhibit heat transfer.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by noonie
I don't know about aluminum and paint.

On a brass rad the special rad paint prevents a lot of oxidation and supposedly doesn't inhibit heat transfer.

That's handy for sure.
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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gkz
After draining my radiator, I noticed white crystal-like deposits around the core passages. They're everywhere! The car was sitting for 15 years; the fluid was still green (but I didn't drain the block yet). Has this radiator, and probably heater core, seen their better days? I mean, how long do these things typically last?
The original aluminum radiator in my 72 had some kind of yellow crust all over the fins. The car had been sitting for 10 years but the antifreeze was still green. We got the engine running and as soon as it came up to temp the radiator started leaking like a sieve. Yours will most likely do the same. I'm holding my breath on the heater core because it hasn't leaked yet but the way things have gone with this car it will probably start leaking as soon as I get everything else finished.



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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gkz
I'm still trying to comprehend how aluminum conducts heat better than copper.
With all the time guys spend on the forum it seems they will NOT visit our website for answers. Check it out someday...

Why aluminum? click below
http://www.dewitts.com/pages/whyaluminum.asp
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 02:04 AM
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Thanks everybody. Tom, a great site and thanks for the answers; I'll give you a call Monday w/my order and questions.
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Thanks everybody. Tom, a great site and thanks for the answers; I'll give you a call Monday w/my order and questions.

Are you getting fans too or just the rad?
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Radiator w/dual fans, and heater core if they sell them.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by gkz
Radiator w/dual fans, and heater core if they sell them.

The heater cores I'm not sure about...but a quick call to Tom would solve that.
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