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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 69 N.O.X. RATT
3.5 to 4 /10's is a lot of e.t. to gain in a mid 10 second car. I have never used the -8's and have had great luck with the -9's.

Your next motor will need -9's or even -10's

I think your plan will gain an appreciable amount of MPH, but not much et. I agree with Daren that you need to put the power to the car as quick as possible to get a 9 sec slip. NA converters are not efficient nitrous converters, granted we are only talking about a 100 shot, but the rule still applies.

Not totally an apples to apples comparison; but when I first ran nitrous in my current car the car would go 9.40's on the motor at 140-141 mph. I made one run that I engaged the nitrous (150 shot) at about 60' and the car went 8.995 at 154.
Well, it takes A LOT more HP to drop 4 tenths in a mid 9 second car than it takes in a mid 10 second car. I believe that spraying in high gear (short shifting) will get me into 10's on a cold day.. I have not run my current setup (without the spray) in sub 60 degree weather yet. I believe that my car is capable of 10.1x on engine on a 45 degree day with a dewpoint in the 20 degree range..
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 69 N.O.X. RATT
I agree that going off the nitrous between shifts could upset the chassis and cause the car to unload and break traction. If you do this be careful, don't want the thing to swap ends on you. The IRS might actually help with this issue.
ok, so I might stay in it during the entire pass (after the 60' mark) but migh blow up the $3000 tranny at the 2-3 shift
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by GrandSportC3
Well, it takes A LOT more HP to drop 4 tenths in a mid 9 second car than it takes in a mid 10 second car. I believe that spraying in high gear (short shifting) will get me into 10's on a cold day.. I have not run my current setup (without the spray) in sub 60 degree weather yet. I believe that my car is capable of 10.1x on engine on a 45 degree day with a dewpoint in the 20 degree range..
Good point, and I said not totally apples to apples, but my car also weighs 2200 lbs with me in it.

Go run it Oliver, and then we will find out for sure.
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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ok, so I might stay in it during the entire pass (after the 60' mark) but migh blow up the $3000 tranny at the 2-3 shift
Just trying to keep you safe Olivier!

Going 9 seconds at 135 MPH without a cage is crazy if you ask me.

Our local track asked us to stay out of the nines last year even with an 8 point cage until I got the chassis certified, an SFI-3.2A/5 rated fire suit, and a NHRA competition license.

So be aware, going 10.0 is a lot cheaper than going 9.90
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Going 9 seconds at 135 MPH without a cage is crazy if you ask me.
Uh oh....this makes me *certifiable*!!!


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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Uh oh....this makes me *certifiable*!!!


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" YUP!!! " Very brave indeed!

But then again there are guys with 16 point cages in mid 10 second cars.
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 69 N.O.X. RATT
Good point, and I said not totally apples to apples, but my car also weighs 2200 lbs with me in it.

Go run it Oliver, and then we will find out for sure.
Jan. 18th might be the day (weather permitting).. Everything is ready to go.. Only need to fill the bottle..

I will very likely only make one 9 second pass and after that, I'll only use it for the 10.0 index race (only in high gear) and as strategic shot for bracket racing (in case that I spin off the line)
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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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Just trying to keep you safe Olivier!

Going 9 seconds at 135 MPH without a cage is crazy if you ask me.

Our local track asked us to stay out of the nines last year even with an 8 point cage until I got the chassis certified, an SFI-3.2A/5 rated fire suit, and a NHRA competition license.

So be aware, going 10.0 is a lot cheaper than going 9.90
That's the reason that I'll only run 9's once (or if it happens accidently otherwise).. I have no plans on upgrading the safety features of the car until my next setup is going in.. Planning on going 8's with the next setup, so I'll really need a lot more stuff... (NHRA competition license, full cage, flexplate shield, window net, engine diaper (as of Jan 1st) etc..
Depending on my funds available, I might even try to build the fastest IRS Vette.. I believe that the fastest one is running 8.40's right now...

BTW, my setup is very efficient and I will not need 135 mph to get into 9's.. I should be able to get there with about 132 - 133 mph.. I've run 10.59 at under 124 mph..and 10.50 flat at about 125mph, 10.40 at 126.77 and 10.35 at 127.59 mph

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been following with lots of interest! apologize for going slightly off topic, oliver, but i wonder what you think your current set up would have run if you still had your 383 & 5 sp.? You turned good times then & it seems you have really sorted out your chassis. Not coincedently, i have a 383 & 4 sp. manual. jim
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been following with lots of interest! apologize for going slightly off topic, oliver, but i wonder what you think your current set up would have run if you still had your 383 & 5 sp.? You turned good times then & it seems you have really sorted out your chassis. Not coincedently, i have a 383 & 4 sp. manual. jim
I think that I would've been slower with the old engine with my current setup.
Stick shift cars with the appropriate gearing that are properly driven (power shifting and hard launch) will usually be faster than automatics..
However, a M21 with the crappy 2.20 first gear would've been a lot slower. I had the TKO and it had a 3.27 first gear etc... I believe that if I'd have a TKO in the car right now, I'd be running in the 9's on engine but I'd also break a lot of parts...
My chassis setup was appropriate for 465 HP before but with more horsepower, you need to upgrade the suspension..

Well, if I had the 383 with the 5-speed in the car right now, it would run about 11.30's on a cold day. (took weight off the car since running 11.60's with the old setup)
With the current automatic transmission, I'd probably run 11.50's or so right now... That's just my guess...

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