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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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I just replaced the starter and the carburetor, and last night I was tuning the carburetor and it was working fine. Tried to start it this morning and it turned over maybe once and started making a clicking sound. I figured the battery was just a little weak from starting and stopping the engine several times w/out giving it time to recharge. So, I tried to jump it and.... nothing. waited about 10 mins or so and still nothing. what the hell did i screw up?! Its possible that I somehow hooked up the new starter wrong and it was draining the battery all night, but i thought jumping it would be able to get it going in the short term. please help I cant think straight right now because I'm annoyed with the damn thing
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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I just replaced the starter and the carburetor, and last night I was tuning the carburetor and it was working fine. Tried to start it this morning and it turned over maybe once and started making a clicking sound. I figured the battery was just a little weak from starting and stopping the engine several times w/out giving it time to recharge. So, I tried to jump it and.... nothing. waited about 10 mins or so and still nothing. what the hell did i screw up?! Its possible that I somehow hooked up the new starter wrong and it was draining the battery all night, but i thought jumping it would be able to get it going in the short term. please help I cant think straight right now because I'm annoyed with the damn thing
Is it National change your starter week?
Clicking is usually weak battery. Charge it up, or have it tested. You could have screwed up the wiring, or left the dome light on, or did not tighten the cables tight, or disturbed a rotting cable. How old is the battery? I never seem to get past 5 years.
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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I thought it was just the battery too, but if it was the battery just being dead wouldn't it have started right up when I tried to jump it?
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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It did start ok at least once after you changed the starter? If yes (I think you indicated that it worked) then you probably wired the starter correctly. You might have a loose connection somewhere. I would doublecheck all the connections both + and - from the battery to the starter, then try again to jumpstart it and recharge the battery.

What kind of starter? It also wouldn't shock me (no pun intended) if your brand new starter worked once and then broke.
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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I thought it was just the battery too, but if it was the battery just being dead wouldn't it have started right up when I tried to jump it?
Not necessarily. A bad battery can suck it all up, leaving nothing to spare. They are also prone to death in hot or cold weather. It's 38* in Anaheim,. How is it up there?
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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It did start ok at least once after you changed the starter? If yes (I think you indicated that it worked) then you probably wired the starter correctly. You might have a loose connection somewhere. I would doublecheck all the connections both + and - from the battery to the starter, then try again to jumpstart it and recharge the battery.

What kind of starter? It also wouldn't shock me (no pun intended) if your brand new starter worked once and then broke.
its a gm performance parts mini type starter (which is barely smaller than the stock one btw) I dont remember the number but it was the cheaper of the 2 that were available from scoggin dickey
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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Make sure your connections are tight and did you replace the solenoid also when you replaced the starter motor, for if you did not the solenoid could be bad (the copper ring inside could be burnt), and it would be a good idea to have your battery load checked (usually a free test) Good luck
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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More than once (one time with my vette, a couple of weeks ago with my cousin's late model minivan) I have tried to jump start a car and it wouldn't work - battery wouldn't take a charge - and we found out the reason was a loose connection.


Just to give you an idea,
With my cousin's minivan we had the jumper cables on the battery terminals, let it run a while, but when we tried to start the car the starter would barely turn over. The battery cable was on the terminal but was not fully tight even tho the tightening screw was all the way screwed in. The short term (BUBBA with a capital "B") fix was to drive a screw in between the terminal and the battery cable bracket, to make a solid electrical contact. No, the screw did not get screwed into the battery, and we told my cousin to take it to a shop and get it fixed properly asap!

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Other than the signal from the key switch, there are only 3 components to the start circuit.

1)Battery

2)Cables/ and their associated connections

3)Starter motor w/solenoid.

That's it folks.
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Not necessarily. A bad battery can suck it all up, leaving nothing to spare. They are also prone to death in hot or cold weather. It's 38* in Anaheim,. How is it up there?
its in the low 50s out here. Colder than what I'm used to but not that cold. also, I was thinking i might have left the key in the "on" postion. Is it possible for the electric choke to have sucked all the juice out of the battery? (I dont have a stereo in the car right now so it wouldnt be drawing any current.
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its in the low 50s out here. Colder than what I'm used to but not that cold. also, I was thinking i might have left the key in the "on" postion. Is it possible for the electric choke to have sucked all the juice out of the battery? (I dont have a stereo in the car right now so it wouldnt be drawing any current.
Choke circuit, blower circuit, gauge circuit, idiot lights, ign circuit, yeah!!!

It's quite possible, especially since you ran it without charging it back up.
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