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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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And you never got a code/check engine light?
No code or light and I put the new computer in this morning along with the injectors and they seem to work perfect.

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That looks like the same type of connector used on the IAC motors. See if you can find a used engine bay wiring harness. I saw one on ebay last week. It should have that part of the harness and a multitude of other connectors that would come in handy for spare parts eventually. OR try Ecklers, Mid America, The Last Detail etc etc..
Sir thank you very much you were right Ecklers had it.I appreciate al your help!
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I was just wondering if there is anything else I can check for that might be causing this problem>>
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got the injectors and installed them ,yes I put the front and the rear in the right place and also installed another new ECM.

No codes or lights flashing..still have same problem Checked distributor found a broken plactic tab (ACDelco Distributor Terminal Block ) on the rear wiring harness I orderd it form Ecklers will be here tomorrow. Was wondering if ther could be anything else that I could have missed. I also ordered a new module.


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did you get the injectors?

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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bluesilver82
Make sure your prom chip is seated correctly and not cracked or damaged.
checked and double checked no problem
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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Change the dipstick. There ain't much left.
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Which part is it? The module does not come with wiring. Its the other part. I can"t see the name for it though. I'll check...I still have the old one and should have the GM part number.

If you think its an advance issue you can test for this. The tan wire running down the rear driverside of the motor is the advance bypass. If you get it started and unplug this wire the idle should noticible change. I gotta tell you though even with this wire unplugge the sytem doesn't load up. Never the less it could still be one of those parts in the distributor.

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Maybe a dumb question.You obviuosly had the TBI tops off to rebuild them. Is the tower with the regulator on the back TBI and the tower with the compensator on the front TBI?

Back being closest to the firewall??

I don't think you can mix them up but its been a while since I have had them off.

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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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Maybe a dumb question.You obviuosly had the TBI tops off to rebuild them. Is the tower with the regulator on the back TBI and the tower with the compensator on the front TBI?

Back being closest to the firewall??

I don't think you can mix them up but its been a while since I have had them off.

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checked and double checked but just for the record i did one at a time and re-installed so there would be no mix up.
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Which part is it? The module does not come with wiring. Its the other part. I can"t see the name for it though. I'll check...I still have the old one and should have the GM part number.

If you think its an advance issue you can test for this. The tan wire running down the rear driverside of the motor is the advance bypass. If you get it started and unplug this wire the idle should noticible change. I gotta tell you though even with this wire unplugge the sytem doesn't load up. Never the less it could still be one of those parts in the distributor.

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Jim its the wiring harness that plugs into the module its called the distributor termnial block. i ordered it from ecklers will be here tomorrow I also ordered the module too.
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Which part is it? The module does not come with wiring. Its the other part. I can"t see the name for it though. I'll check...I still have the old one and should have the GM part number.

If you think its an advance issue you can test for this. The tan wire running down the rear driverside of the motor is the advance bypass. If you get it started and unplug this wire the idle should noticible change. I gotta tell you though even with this wire unplugge the sytem doesn't load up. Never the less it could still be one of those parts in the distributor.

Jim
Jim one note maybe this will spark something, while it was idleing we plulled each plug wire from the distributor cap and it seemd to smooth the engine out, which doesn't make sense since it should have run rougher, we did this with every wire.......when we pulled the cap off and looked inside thats when we found this terminal block plastic part broken.
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Originally Posted by Big2Bird
Change the dipstick. There ain't much left.
I couldn't agree more
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I can get you that part. Its called the terminal block. GM part number 1979733. My price is $115 CDN. 3-5 days.

I'm ticked. I removed mine because my wire had melted. the block was good....I think I tossed it

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Jim one note maybe this will spark something, while it was idleing we plulled each plug wire from the distributor cap and it seemd to smooth the engine out, which doesn't make sense since it should have run rougher, we did this with every wire.......when we pulled the cap off and looked inside thats when we found this terminal block plastic part broken.
Its that the part you ordered??? Plug looks different.

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Try disconnecting the tan wire. No difference in rpm will tell you its that part for sure.

Just though of something. I had a mechanic look over my distributor back in 2005. Bonehead let the ground strap on the coil drop out. I found it wedged behind the oil pressure sensor. I also found a burn coil. Make sure that piece is in there.

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Its that the part you ordered??? Plug looks different.

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Jim you are correct as usual , BUT I found out that the picture in the SERVICE MANUEL does not accurately dispic the correct plug. The one I am ordering is the correct one for my car I matched it up with what was actually in the car. just thought I would mention this because thats the first time I have seen the Helms book not give you a accurate picture.
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Originally Posted by jdp6000
Try disconnecting the tan wire. No difference in rpm will tell you its that part for sure.

Just though of something. I had a mechanic look over my distributor back in 2005. Bonehead let the ground strap on the coil drop out. I found it wedged behind the oil pressure sensor. I also found a burn coil. Make sure that piece is in there.

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I can get you that part. Its called the terminal block. GM part number 1979733. My price is $115 CDN. 3-5 days.

I'm ticked. I removed mine because my wire had melted. the block was good....I think I tossed it

Jim
Jim thank you but I already ordered it from Ecklers for 72.00
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Well tonight I installed the terminal block harness and module in the disrributor. It did not fix the problem. I put the tester on the car and tried to crank it. I got it started for a few seconds then same thing touch the throttle and it stalled out . I did get a code 31. The tester gave me a message of the following:

Wastegate high Map overboost.

I have been looking in the service manual but I do not see a code 31........has anybody out there ever heard of this code.
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Originally Posted by warrior2291
Well tonight I installed the terminal block harness and module in the disrributor. It did not fix the problem. I put the tester on the car and tried to crank it. I got it started for a few seconds then same thing touch the throttle and it stalled out . I did get a code 31. The tester gave me a message of the following:

Wastegate high Map overboost.

I have been looking in the service manual but I do not see a code 31........has anybody out there ever heard of this code.
No code 31 on an 82. There is a GM code 31 for 84-92. See link http://www.metzcon.com/racing/gm-ecm-codes.htm

Wastegate high map??? also on newer gm. Usually related to a turbo boost.

What part number is your ECM??Sure its for an 82???

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