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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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I have a stock 350. I have noticed recently there is a knock in the engine starting to be heard. When the engine is cold, you can't hear it. As it warms up it gets louder. I am a novice at this! Any suggestions? Thanks
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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Is it a low sound knock or more of a ticking?

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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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Is it a low sound knock or more of a ticking?

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It is more of a low sound than a ticking. Thanks
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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Can you tell if it is coming from the front of the engine or the back, or if it is coming from a particular side of the engine?
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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Does it speed up with engine RPM? Does it get worse the faster it spins?

MAYBE a worn rod bearing or two?

Have you drained and checked your oil for metal shavings lately?
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dgruenke
Can you tell if it is coming from the front of the engine or the back, or if it is coming from a particular side of the engine?
It appears to be comming from the front of the engine on the Drs. side. Thanks
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Does it speed up with engine RPM? Does it get worse the faster it spins?

MAYBE a worn rod bearing or two?

Have you drained and checked your oil for metal shavings lately?
I will do that tomorrow, Thanks
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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I will do that tomorrow, Thanks

A quick and easy way to do that is to drain the pan through a coffee filter or a scrap T-shirt. You will see any shavings.
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A quick and easy way to do that is to drain the pan through a coffee filter or a scrap T-shirt. You will see any shavings.
Thanks, Good idea!
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What year is your car? My 80 was pinging under load only after it was warmed up. Turned out the vacuum hose to EGR was hooked up wrong.

If a later model, check that the doors in the horns on the air cleaner open once the engine is warmed up.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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What year is your car? My 80 was pinging under load only after it was warmed up. Turned out the vacuum hose to EGR was hooked up wrong.

If a later model, check that the doors in the horns on the air cleaner open once the engine is warmed up.
The vet is a 75, It was also suggested that I un hook the EGR. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Does it speed up with engine RPM? Does it get worse the faster it spins?

MAYBE a worn rod bearing or two?
With the engine running in turn pull a plug wire for each cylinder ..at times when you take away the firing of the cylinder the sound will go away if it is in fact a rod bearing ...
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Originally Posted by juiceman03070
With the engine running in turn pull a plug wire for each cylinder ..at times when you take away the firing of the cylinder the sound will go away if it is in fact a rod bearing ...

I full aware that a rod bearing may be a long shot considering none of us can hear it in person. It's so hard to determine what someone else calls a knock, when it may be a ping, clatter, slap...whatever.

It may not be a rod bearing...it's just something to consider as he goes over the findings and symptoms.
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
I full aware that a rod bearing may be a long shot considering none of us can hear it in person. It's so hard to determine what someone else calls a knock, when it may be a ping, clatter, slap...whatever.

It may not be a rod bearing...it's just something to consider as he goes over the findings and symptoms.
With so many metal to metal parts making contact ...Ive had a faulty mechanical fuel pump sound like a busted wrist pen..
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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If its a rod bearing, It will show up in the oil presure. If the oil presure drops at an idle (when the engine is up to operating temp) & increses with rpm thats a good indication of a rod bearing problem.
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Originally Posted by juiceman03070
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With so many metal to metal parts making contact ...Ive had a faulty mechanical fuel pump sound like a busted wrist pen..
This was going to be my suggestion if when you drain your oil there are no shavings...

Good luck!!!

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hate to say it, but sounds like you've got a thrown rod... is the oil pressure reading normal? drain the oil and look for any shavings also. If the sound gets worse or louder when you rev its probably a thrown rod... If this is a daily driver and you need it for work, find out which cylinder(s) is/are knocking by pulling the fuel and spark plug from each one until the noise goes away. Leave the plugs and fuel cut from the bad cylinders... it will be LOUD and annoying as hell, but it will keep it going a little longer...

If your engine is carbed I have no idea how or even if you can cut the fuel to individual cylinders...

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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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If its a rod bearing, It will show up in the oil presure. If the oil presure drops at an idle (when the engine is up to operating temp) & increses with rpm thats a good indication of a rod bearing problem.
I'm not arguing, but I've never heard of this before....

The oil pressure on my vette goes down at idle and up with rpm... and I have no rod bearing issues with it.

I also had a rod knocking on my truck and never noticed the oil pressure doing anything out of the ordinary as the oil pressure goes up and down on this depending on rpm too... even before the rod issue.

On my 99 Camaro same thing.... no rod bearing issues, but the oil pressure goes up and down with rpm.

Is the oil pressure changes somehow differnet than what you might see normally?
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Try Liquid Rebuild and let us know how it runs.... if it runs at all. lolol.
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Originally Posted by Smoke 1
I have a stock 350. I have noticed recently there is a knock in the engine starting to be heard. When the engine is cold, you can't hear it. As it warms up it gets louder. I am a novice at this! Any suggestions? Thanks
Pull the valve covers and check to see if a broken spring, bent push rod, etc.
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