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I didn't mean just add zinc...I meant make my own additive int he event that the gov takes it out completely. You know...play mad chemist and mix one up ourselves.
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Maybe, that was sarcasm. I tested it once like I saw in the Home Depot stores. You know, glues a screen door 'D' handle to a cinder block. It wouldn't hold no matter how much or little I used, how clean the block was, or the temp or time the glue was cured at. That stuff MAY work on some things but I think it's bull.
If I were really gonna attach fins I would have the welded on.
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Maybe, that was sarcasm. I tested it once like I saw in the Home Depot stores. You know, glues a screen door 'D' handle to a cinder block. It wouldn't hold no matter how much or little I used, how clean the block was, or the temp or time the glue was cured at. That stuff MAY work on some things but I think it's bull.
If I were really gonna attach fins I would have the welded on.
If I were really gonna attach fins I would have the welded on.
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C - I said make my own additive. That followed finding zinc to buy. If I knew the complete ingredient list that would accomplish making that additive...and if I could get the ingredients I would seriously consider making that additive.
Obviously all that revolves on the premise that oils will no longer have zinc and other additives that I would prefer ti keep in my engine oil.
Now, as mentioned above I think it would be much easier to just buy GMs additive.
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St. Jude Donor '05-'07
DB: Looking at oil coolers in the Summit and Jegs catalog, they all look like a trans cooler and have fins. I wonder how efficient the one in your picture would really be? And maybe it's a solution looking for a problem? Do you live in an area that gets extremely hot (I do). Also depends on the type of driving you plan on doing.
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DB: Looking at oil coolers in the Summit and Jegs catalog, they all look like a trans cooler and have fins. I wonder how efficient the one in your picture would really be? And maybe it's a solution looking for a problem? Do you live in an area that gets extremely hot (I do). Also depends on the type of driving you plan on doing.
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I do live in an area that gets above 100 in the summer which as we all know radiating of a road surface can get much higher to the car.
I have had problems and see lots of problems with hot fluids and a hot engine.
When I install the new motor and trans I want to cover all the bases right up front. I want the power steering system to have a cooler, and the same goes for the engine oil and transmission oil.
I did not buy the item from post #1, as it's just tied into the coolant system, and I don't want something else adding heat to it. I decided on using the sandwich adapter I have, installing an oil cooler, just like a trans cool, and mounting them in the back where the spare used to be. I will likely mount both the trans and engine oil coolers back there.
I'm still deciding on if I want a fan switched by a thermostat.
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Not really related, but yep. I ditched the spare a LONG time ago. It has nothing to do with the coolers...they are just gonna take up it's space.
I have road side assistance, a cell phone
What I don't have is a jack that'll fit under the car if a tire is flat.
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St. Jude Donor '05-'07
I do live in an area that gets above 100 in the summer which as we all know radiating of a road surface can get much higher to the car.
I have had problems and see lots of problems with hot fluids and a hot engine.
When I install the new motor and trans I want to cover all the bases right up front. I want the power steering system to have a cooler, and the same goes for the engine oil and transmission oil.
I did not buy the item from post #1, as it's just tied into the coolant system, and I don't want something else adding heat to it. I decided on using the sandwich adapter I have, installing an oil cooler, just like a trans cool, and mounting them in the back where the spare used to be. I will likely mount both the trans and engine oil coolers back there.
I'm still deciding on if I want a fan switched by a thermostat.
I have had problems and see lots of problems with hot fluids and a hot engine.
When I install the new motor and trans I want to cover all the bases right up front. I want the power steering system to have a cooler, and the same goes for the engine oil and transmission oil.
I did not buy the item from post #1, as it's just tied into the coolant system, and I don't want something else adding heat to it. I decided on using the sandwich adapter I have, installing an oil cooler, just like a trans cool, and mounting them in the back where the spare used to be. I will likely mount both the trans and engine oil coolers back there.
I'm still deciding on if I want a fan switched by a thermostat.
Sounds like a very complex setup to get the job done. Remember also that oil has to be at a certain temperature to be effective/efficient. That's why you install the thermostat. If you drive in cold weather you DON'T want that oil to be cooled too much. It will reduce the flow and could do more harm than good.
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St. Jude Donor '05-'07
Ditto for me. But I don't drive on the street
I do have a floor jack that can get under a Vette with a flat, though.
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I dunno about mounting the oil/trans cooler in the back. For sure you will need a fan if you do. Those fin jobs work on large amounts of air flowing over them. Most I've seen were mounted in front of the radiator. Plus you are gonna have some LONG lines going back there.
Sounds like a very complex setup to get the job done. Remember also that oil has to be at a certain temperature to be effective/efficient. That's why you install the thermostat. If you drive in cold weather you DON'T want that oil to be cooled too much. It will reduce the flow and could do more harm than good.
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Sounds like a very complex setup to get the job done. Remember also that oil has to be at a certain temperature to be effective/efficient. That's why you install the thermostat. If you drive in cold weather you DON'T want that oil to be cooled too much. It will reduce the flow and could do more harm than good.
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I agree with all that. Yes, the lines will be ling but that may play to my advantage. I don't want them up front as I want all air going into the radiator to be outside air cool, not passing through another hot radiator before it's supposed to go though another already hot radiator that's trying to keep the engine cool.
So long as they are mounted correctly, they won't be overly effective until the fan kicks in. I could use one fan for both I think if I mount them right.
It does get cold here but I don't drive it much at all in the winter, as we get frozen precip which adds up to poor traction for high HP rear wheel drive cars. I have a 4x4 for the fun seasons.
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Just a thought here. I mounted an engine oil cooler behind my electric fans. The air that is pulled thru the A/C condensor and radiator is blown across a B & M stack type cooler. It is effective and the lines are much shorter than running them to the rear of the car. I had thought about plumbing a fan and cooler where my my spare used to be but I bought a Derale tranny pan and will check it this summer to see how much it helps. If I need more cooling for the tranny I can either mount a cooler in front of the A/C condensor or install it in the rear. Several have done this and works fine for the transmission. On my 79, I replaced the auto with a T5 and got rid of that heat source all
together. I don't like the idea of having to pump engine oil all the way to the back of the car and forward again. Those that have done it have used another pump in addition to the engine pump. Engine oil temps follow engine temps but they need to be hotter to vaporize the condensation that occurs in the block. Again, these are my personal opinions based on my experience with the type driving I do.
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together. I don't like the idea of having to pump engine oil all the way to the back of the car and forward again. Those that have done it have used another pump in addition to the engine pump. Engine oil temps follow engine temps but they need to be hotter to vaporize the condensation that occurs in the block. Again, these are my personal opinions based on my experience with the type driving I do.
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You don't need an engine oil cooler your not going to road race
the car. Break it in on dino oil switch over to synthetic. The cam
you put in your 400 is a 5000 rpm engine your not going to work
the engine hard enough to need an engine oil cooler. All your going
to do is put a bunch of external pluming on your car for no reason.
the car. Break it in on dino oil switch over to synthetic. The cam
you put in your 400 is a 5000 rpm engine your not going to work
the engine hard enough to need an engine oil cooler. All your going
to do is put a bunch of external pluming on your car for no reason.
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