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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 04:33 PM
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Well, I thought this was going too smooth. My intent was to refresh the entire engine without pulling it out. The old 454 ran fine, but I could not leave "well enough alone".

I just had to go with a new cam....etc....

Look at the cam bearing in the pic below. There is no way to replace these cam bearings without pulling the crank out...is there?

Looks like I might as well find myself a stand and pull it on out of the car.

Suggestions.........???


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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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Wow that doesn't look good at all.

I have never replaced cam bearings but I understand it's not a fun job unless you are either dropping it off at a machine shop.

I would love to hear from more experienced guys on this one so I can do it myself on the next time around.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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Thanks Durango....I was shocked to find this when I pulled the GM6 cam out today. This is the only sign of wear that I have found so far and the LAST place I wanted to find it. I have not replaced cam bearings befor either. Was hoping to not pull this motor! If there is an alternative, I hope someone can educate me on this one.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Have a pro install new cam bearings.

More often than not ... cam bearings hold up much longer than rods/mains ... better have a pro look at & measure crank journals.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Im no expert by no means!! That said, what do the install of cam bearings have to do with the crank? I thoght you removed cam bearings and installed with a driver of some type, looks long and has driver on the end similar to the type you would use to install a bearing race. I doubt you could use the tool with the engine in the car? Even if you removed the radiator and support
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Im no expert by no means!! That said, what do the install of cam bearings have to do with the crank?

Oil taking particles of metal from the worn cam bearings could have damaged some or all of the crank bearings. It's better to be prepared for damage there too.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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Oil taking particles of metal from the worn cam bearings could have damaged some or all of the crank bearings. It's better to be prepared for damage there too.

Yep....after this surprise, I will probably go ahead and pull it. I have a friend that owns a good repair shop. I will have him re-do the crank...rod bearings.....cam bearings.....hell...might as well do the heads while I'm at it.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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Yep....after this surprise, I will probably go ahead and pull it. I have a friend that owns a good repair shop. I will have him re-do the crank...rod bearings.....cam bearings.....hell...might as well do the heads while I'm at it.

While he's at it, have him put in a whole new set of freeze plugs, water plugs, and oil plugs. Hate to see all that work done and then a freeze plug pops.
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You can do all this with the engine installed, but... I have to agree with the others. If you pull the engine & have your shop go through it now, you'll probably never have to do it again. Any bearing wear demands inspection of all the bearings. Heck, now is as good a time as any to move up to a 502.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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You cannot install cam bearings with the engine installed . The rear cam plug must be removed in order to drive the rear bearing out to install a new one . The crank also must be removed to allow installation of the new bearings . This is a pesky task to say the least !

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Originally Posted by ram82fire
You cannot install cam bearings with the engine installed . The rear cam plug must be removed in order to drive the rear bearing out to install a new one . The crank also must be removed to allow installation of the new bearings . This is a pesky task to say the least !

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Thanks everyone.....that's what I thought. Just glad I found it now rather than later. Pulling this motor out won't be that bigga deal at this point! Instead of a big block....GM could have just offered TWO small blocks....there's room.




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