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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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Is it normal to hear the back-fireing when slowing down from a hard run? The vette has moderatly loud mufflers. Just got the car last month, did the Lars timing (fantastic performance). I'm thinking about adjusting the hydraulic lifters. Any ideas?
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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as I understand it, backfiring on deceleration is a lean condition. Someone who knows more than me will hopefully chime in and I would guess suggest checking the carb and perhaps going up a couple of sizes in jets...
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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Pretty typical with dual set-up, no cross connections so that opposing cylinders do not fire against each other. But I am listening too, since maybe I have it all wrong.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 77BuffaloVet
as I understand it, backfiring on deceleration is a lean condition. Someone who knows more than me will hopefully chime in and I would guess suggest checking the carb and perhaps going up a couple of sizes in jets...

That is how I remembered it too. There was a debate between a couple of knowledgable members and the recognized expert suggested lean caused the poping and rich didn't have enough oxygen to sustain combustion in the pipes.
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Could be a leaky exhaust connection. Mine was at the exhaust manifold to exhaust pipe connection.
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Usually indicative of a lean condition. Back your idle mixture screws out a little and see if it helps. If it does, you can try richening it up a couple of jet sizes. Have you re-jetted the carb for the free-flowing exhaust, or are you running stock jetting? If so, you are certainly lean.
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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Jughead
Could be a leaky exhaust connection. Mine was at the exhaust manifold to exhaust pipe connection.
Thanks for the idea. I checked all exhaust connections and they where fine.
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Originally Posted by lars
Usually indicative of a lean condition. Back your idle mixture screws out a little and see if it helps. If it does, you can try richening it up a couple of jet sizes. Have you re-jetted the carb for the free-flowing exhaust, or are you running stock jetting? If so, you are certainly lean.
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Thanks Lars. I purchased the car with a holly 1850-1 carb and a dual level intake manifold. I do not know what the prior owner did (if anything) to the carb. Tried to contact the prior owner, but I got the vette thru a dealer...no luck there. Checked the Holly web site for info on the 1850-1 but only found info on an 1850C and an 1850S. Sent e-mail to holly regarding the 1850-1, but they have not reponded. I'll richen the idle screws and see what happens.
PS Your paper on initial setting timeing was great!
Thanks.
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That carb comes stock with 66 jets on the primary side. Swap in a set of 68s and set idle mixture screws to 1 turn out as an initial setting.
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Originally Posted by lars
That carb comes stock with 66 jets on the primary side. Swap in a set of 68s and set idle mixture screws to 1 turn out as an initial setting.
I called the Holley tech rep to check on the number on my carb (1850-2) to make sure I order the right jets and gaskets. He asked why I was re-jetting...told him about the exhaust back-fire. He told me to move the vacuum advance hose from the base of the carb to the higher fitting on the metering block. I did so and... good news: Back-fireing stopped... Bad news: the car has a BIG hesitation when under heavy acceleration
I'll re-jet (the heck w/Holley reps), but where should the vacuum advance connection go? I thought below the throttle plate was right.
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so you switched from manifold to ported vaccum. Go back and take a look at Lars' papers.

As I understand it, Manifold vaccum will increase performance. Switching to ported vaccum changed your timing curve causing you to lose performance.

Follow Lars' advice from above. Go back to manifold vaccum and jet the carb up to 68.
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Thanks for the response.
I can go directly to the manifold or the base plate of the carb. Does it matter?
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Manifold vacuum is manifold vacuum regardless of where you pull it from.
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