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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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Need help - trying to drop fuel tank and am having problems getting the spare carrier out. '68 vert parked for 17+ years - pulled the spare out (Surprise it was a Polyglas - original? - pix later) and have removed all the bolts that I can see (2 by lock and 2 in middle/front of carrier top IIRC). Now am trying to figure out how to remove the bottom part - it seemed to hinge on something up by the axle. I jacked her up and crawled under there far enough to see the V brace ends were each hanging off some sort of metal rod attached to the frame at the top via holes in the brace ends. The lower end of these rods were flattened like a big nail head but have two parallel flats about 13/16's apart. My '68 assembly manual shows them screwing into a nut welded to the top side of the frame. I tried to budge them w/a 13/16's open end wrench but no luck. Was also a very hard area to get leverage w/half shafts and exhaust in the way and junk falling in my face. Any helpful tips? And yes they got soaked in Marvel Mystery oil and PB Blaster.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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You are at it the right way, just keep soaking them with the PB blaster, they should come loose eventually, if not you might have to heat them up to get them to come out. Just be careful, the last thing that you want to have happen is to have the weld break on the nut inside the frame, then you'll have to cut them out.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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those 2 long rods the metal brace hang from are essentially just long bolts that thread right into the frame crossmember. You will need to get them out to take off the spare tire tub, but like you said they're hard to get at and usually freeze up pretty good. I managed to break one of mine free with either vice grips or an open end wrench on the nut that sits against the frame, but I had to cut the other one to get a socket on the end of it.
I ended up replacing them with some long bolts from the hardware store with fender washers for the metal brace to hang on. I tried finding the correct bolts, but the only vender that even listed one had it on backorder forever and its another part the average person will never see.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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on my last frame they fell out! that was a rust problem area. my new frame has them coated with anti sieze,, but then again it hasnt gotten wet yeat! yes they just thread in i believe there is a nut welded above.---------------------------------------
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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Hi

I just derivetted the V-brace from the lower tray, took out the lower tray and could easily get to the bolts with some decent grip pliers to break them loose.
Makes painting the V-starp easy and rerivetting or rebolting to the lower tray is easy.

Good luck. Günther
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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You're going to have to remove the mufflers to get to the 4 bolts on the gas tank support. You did say you intend to remove the tank, right. I have the tank out of my 77 now and I ended up dropping the whole exhaust system.
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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Thanks for all the tips - this site makes working on my vehicle a fun project (well except for the stuff falling in my eyes / on my face... I know need some ). I almost removed the mufflers and part of the exhaust today but didn't have my portable sawzall with me. After removing the rear tire - access was much improved. I did manage to get one of them started but got sidetracked on something else - will give the PB Blaster more time to work anyway. I also like the idea of removing the rivets holding the lower section of the carrier from the braces. Thanks again everyone!
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by chris73cpe
those 2 long rods the metal brace hang from are essentially just long bolts that thread right into the frame crossmember. You will need to get them out to take off the spare tire tub, but like you said they're hard to get at and usually freeze up pretty good. I managed to break one of mine free with either vice grips or an open end wrench on the nut that sits against the frame, but I had to cut the other one to get a socket on the end of it.
I ended up replacing them with some long bolts from the hardware store with fender washers for the metal brace to hang on. I tried finding the correct bolts, but the only vender that even listed one had it on backorder forever and its another part the average person will never see.
I did this very same thing over a month ago. Even though my undercarriage was pretty rust free, it was still a PITA to do. I did the exact same thing as chris73cpe did, soak the bolts with PB Blaster, then it was the vice grips and crescent wrench and a lotta patience to get them out. Now all the hardware has been cleaned and painted. I just need to paint the tire carrier and I am ready to install. When I install the tire carrier, I may put some anti-seize on the carrier bolts. I plan on rebuilding the TA's this fall and don't want to go through that ordeal again.
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