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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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Our 1980 ran great on a beautiful Dallas day cruise today....until we decided to get aggressive... hit 2nd and at just about the time to hit 3rd...it happened... severe missing and backfireing.
Pulled to the side of 380 and tried to troubleshoot before finally giving in and calling for the tow home.

Long investigative story short...found that my distributor gear was stripped. I had noticed some abnormal wear on the gear when I resealed my manifold but didn't think much of it...now I know better.

Question... is it as simple as replacing the gear, changing the oil and resetting the timing? How do I know I got all the metal out from around the cam gear that drives the distributor gear?

Thanks in advance everyone!

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Old Mar 31, 2007 | 11:42 PM
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Another bronze gear bites the dust.
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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Ed, Lets pull that 383 out and put a LS 6.0 in there. You got to tired of tuning that thing. You've already got the 5 speed, so your half there.
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I'm glad I asked here before I ordered a bronze gear

How many miles did this one last ?

I'd say you need to change oil and filter, hopefully all the bronze dust got stuck in the filter and didn't damage bearings.... bronze is soft but harder than bearing metal....

good luck

btw, I have a complete spare distributor with stock gear, ready to drop in if you're interessted
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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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What is the reason your using a bronze gear? bronze gears are only for some specific camshafts, be sure to check up on what kind your cam requires, to me it looks like you need a standard steel gear.

I wouldnt be to concerned about the lost material from the dist gear, it looks much worse than it is (i have experienced the exact same problem) most of the material is just deformed on the gear and not flooating around as debris, but change the oil and filter and you should be fine, the material lost from the gear is big enough for the filter to catch and it wont dammage the pump.

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Old Apr 1, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Budman78
Ed, Lets pull that 383 out and put a LS 6.0 in there. You got to tired of tuning that thing. You've already got the 5 speed, so your half there.
I hear you man... this hasn't been a low maintenance journey...
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Originally Posted by MYBAD79
I'm glad I asked here before I ordered a bronze gear

How many miles did this one last ?

I'd say you need to change oil and filter, hopefully all the bronze dust got stuck in the filter and didn't damage bearings.... bronze is soft but harder than bearing metal....

good luck

btw, I have a complete spare distributor with stock gear, ready to drop in if you're interessted
Maybe 2,000 miles... ordered replacement from Jegs yesterday. Thanks for the offer.
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Originally Posted by PNK
What is the reason your using a bronze gear? bronze gears are only for some specific camshafts, be sure to check up on what kind your cam requires, to me it looks like you need a standard steel gear.

I wouldnt be to concerned about the lost material from the dist gear, it looks much worse than it is (i have experienced the exact same problem) most of the material is just deformed on the gear and not flooating around as debris, but change the oil and filter and you should be fine, the material lost from the gear is big enough for the filter to catch and it wont dammage the pump.
Thanks for the insight...

Have one final question...How do I remove the old gear to replace with the new? Tech said it was an alen wrench head screw...but I don't see it. There is what appears to be a spiral pin in the side of the gear that goes all the way threw...no alen screw...
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It's a roll pin. Get a pin punch just smaller than the hole, back up the gear to prevent bending the shaft, and tap it out.

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What type of cam are you running , check with the Cam Manufacturer to see what type of gear it requires. I am using the Comp Cams Composite gear in mine cause the bronze was wearing too fast.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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What type of cam are you running , check with the Cam Manufacturer to see what type of gear it requires. I am using the Comp Cams Composite gear in mine cause the bronze was wearing too fast.

Jegs recommended another MSD Bronze gear that states that it is for an XE Roller cam... Have it on the way but remain concerned.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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Ive been concerned...Recently I found this article posted pretty deep in Comps Website.

Comp Says this about their Camshafts......
"Most STREET ROLLER and HYDRAULIC ROLLER camshafts
are made from an austempered material, which is compatible with the
standard gear; however, COMP Cams® composite distributor gear is the
best choice.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 80TexasC3
Jegs recommended another MSD Bronze gear that states that it is for an XE Roller cam... Have it on the way but remain concerned.
Put a Mellonized steel gear in there. Screw the bronze crap. GM has them.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by b71vette
What type of cam are you running , check with the Cam Manufacturer to see what type of gear it requires. I am using the Comp Cams Composite gear in mine cause the bronze was wearing too fast.

How long have you been running the composite gear? Any issues?
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If you have a MSD the stock GM gear won't fit.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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To shear the roll pin on the distributor gear should cause you to look for a reason it stripped. I would suggest that you make sure the oil pump is not locked up with debris or you will be doing it all over again.

Sorry, this is probably not the reason when I looked at your picture. I presumed the gear had slipped on the distributor shaft breaking the roll pin. Not that the gear itself was worn out.

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