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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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I accidently ordered the wrong size rods. Factory rods in my L82 are 5/16" and I got 3/8" 4130 rods. I have a new set of 3/8" guide plates already too. Can I use this combo in my 350? I see catalogs list both sizes for SBC's. What would the differences be? More weight to move I suppose??

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I though this would bring an easy / quick answer.

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most guide plate usage requires hardened pushrods. If neither set is hardened the point is moot. But that being said I believe you use the 3/8ths pushrod with the 3/8th's guide plate. Non hardened pushrods will wear excessively against the guide plate. I don't know if 4130's are the hardened ones or just the quality of steel content. I just order the ones that say hardened. Does this help any?

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I suspect interference between the head and pushrods using the 3/8. I don't think the pushrod passages in the head are big enough for them. You;ll need to do a little machine work (drill)
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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Nothing wrong with 5/16 push rods. I know if there are 3/8 pushrods, i`m not aware of them for SB engines. BB`s are a different story, they go to 7/16.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tigers123
most guide plate usage requires hardened pushrods. If neither set is hardened the point is moot. But that being said I believe you use the 3/8ths pushrod with the 3/8th's guide plate. Non hardened pushrods will wear excessively against the guide plate. I don't know if 4130's are the hardened ones or just the quality of steel content. I just order the ones that say hardened. Does this help any?
Thanks guys, Both rods and guides are hardened. The holes in the heads below the guide seem to have about 1/16" clearance all around the rods when mocked up. Is that enough or should I throw it on the drill press and make them a little larger presuming its cool to run these larger 3/8 rods?
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3/8th are significantly stronger and they are used in higher spring pressure roller motors. Weight is the only draw back.

1/16th is plenty of P.R. clearance
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Originally Posted by gkull
3/8th are significantly stronger and they are used in higher spring pressure roller motors. Weight is the only draw back.

1/16th is plenty of P.R. clearance
Might be a little over kill, but there going in, I'm not waiting for another set, Plus I ruined the packaging...

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Originally Posted by 2armor
Might be a little over kill, but there going in, I'm not waiting for another set, Plus I ruined the packaging...

THANKS!!
You will have strong pushrods for sure, never tried it but with a 1.5
stanard rocker the holes may be big enough to handle it, if your
using 1.6 don't see that working without doing some enlarging,
look at everthing good.
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Originally Posted by Little Mouse
You will have strong pushrods for sure, never tried it but with a 1.5
stanard rocker the holes may be big enough to handle it, if your
using 1.6 don't see that working without doing some enlarging,
look at everthing good.
The 3/8" rod tip seam to fit in the pocket fine. I stayed with the 1.5 rockers, just change to the roller type.

Now I just need a cam that will work on my 882 cast L82 heads. I need a new cam and want something equivilant or better. Summit #1105??

thanks for the tips!
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