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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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There are 3 cupped washers that come with the front shock. Where does the 3rd washer go?
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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There should be two on each side, total of four. One on the top & bottom of the rubber cushion. Sounds like you one to many or one to few

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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DO2G
Where does the 3rd washer go?
In your tool box. Should be two per shock as stated above.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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Hello
I just installed 4 KYB shocks on my 75.
The front shocks had only 2 cupped washers per side.
They went at the very bottom of the shock, and the very top near
the bolt. There were no washers used at the interface area where they go through the control arm.

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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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My Bilsteins had two per shock; one for top and one for bottom.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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The 3rd washer, I was told was a finishing washer that goes over the golden colored one on top? Makes no sense to me, but that what I was told by a few different vendors.

Shocks are installed and WOW what a difference!

Note: Very easy to install.....
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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Forgot...

How tight do you make the top front nuts?
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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Spec says 25 foot pounds. I just tightened them up until the cushion was a little smaller than the washer.
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Trick I figured out to get poly cushions - Energy Suspension sway bar end link bushings fit perfectly, and a package of them is quite cheap at AutoZone.
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Trick I figured out to get poly cushions - Energy Suspension sway bar end link bushings fit perfectly, and a package of them is quite cheap at AutoZone.
Doesn't Poly transfer vibration etc., that the rubber grommets are meant to absorb?
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Originally Posted by willem wallace
Doesn't Poly transfer vibration etc., that the rubber grommets are meant to absorb?
Maybe, but the poly also doesn't deflect, allowing the shock to actually do it's job.
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I just installed a set and I used all 3 washers. The black one first with the with the lower rubber. Then thru the frame. The silver washer next with the cup up. It has a small sleeve on the bottom that fits into the frame to keep the upper bushing centered which keeps the shock shaft from rubbing the frame. The gold colored one goes one top.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 12:20 AM
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Do2G, I bought the Bilstien sport shocks for my 69 and had the same question. (3 washer, two thick and one thin silver one ) Asked the mechanics at work and they said like what Palamesa mentioned, the silver thin one goes on top of the bottom poly bushing. The porpose they said was if you look at the shock tower the hole is somewhat big, but top of the silver cup will fit in the hole preventing the shock shaft from moving around in the tower. I thought that might be it but installed one side without it. Have to go and remove it tonite and reinstall it. Installing the SS calipers also. Tony
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69 Convert...I was thinking about that set-up this morning. It does make more sense for the 3rd washer to be on top of the lower bushing rather then under the upper since most of the load is pushing up. I'll be switching mine this morning.
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Palamesa, I just switched mine this morning. Didn't put the other side on so I don't have to take that off. Looked at the drivers side lower control arm and saw the bushing is really tore up. Bummer. Now I have to go shopping again. Poly bushing kit, front sway bar, maybe upper and lower balljoints since i'm going to be in it. And last, new #550 springs. Looking at VBP. I installed the mono leaf already # 330. Money just going out ;P

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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Something else worth mentioning - the poly end link bushings and the poly shock bushings sold by VB&P have a molded-on rib that replaces the locating washer between bushing and frame.
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I'm Batman, thanks for the mention. I did'nt buy the Bilstien from VBP and the bushing for the shocks I have must be rubber and are flat on both side. Just another thing that can be overlooked. Thanks
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OK...Just pulled my shock. Mine has an upper cup washer welded to the frame on the underside so my 3rd washer does go on top as I had it. I have a 76' so it may be different on yours. I agree that some of the other shocks have a sleeve on the rubber to take up the space (thus 2 washers) but these bilstiens have that 3rd washer with the sleeve to keep it centered.
BTW I went with the 550 fronts and 460 rear from VB&P. I'm still working on the car so I can't comment on the ride but I'm real happy with the parts and service.
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Palamesa, Do you have a BB or SB. Your thoughts on your # 460 decision.
Wondering if the #330 is not stiff enough or the # 460 might be too stiff.
Did'nt get to drive it too far but wife says the ride was not as jarring. Working on the front now. Got to go out and pick up wheel bearings.\

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Originally Posted by I'm Batman
Trick I figured out to get poly cushions - Energy Suspension sway bar end link bushings fit perfectly, and a package of them is quite cheap at AutoZone.
My Edelbrock shocks came with poly cushions. I'd put them in if the new ones don't have them............
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