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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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I swear it must be the simple things that keep us from getting our Corvettes just like we want them.

I am having problems with the right side mirror install on my 1971 vette. No problems with drilling holes, mounting the base, etc. When I install the mirror head the set screw lines up fine, I tighten it up, "woila" it wobbles on the base.

I take it off, box it up, I send it back and get a replacement. Do the same thing and have the same problem. The set screw passes completely through the mounting base and bottoms out the threads of the set screw and does not secure the head... it wobbles all over the place.

Mind you I replaced the drivers side and it tightend down with flying colors.

Anybody else running into these problems. I am fixin' to mail this back for the 2nd time, get my money returned and order from another supplier.

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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Mine did that to bought it from GM direct thought I was getting the good stuff didn't happen, if I remember right I shimmed it I have the old one and I took the glass out did the clip around the ball trick jb welded it tight as new just waiting on a chance to put it back on
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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Hi, I have a 69 vette and the original mirror on the drivers side was loose. When I hit the gas, it tilts toward the ground. Even the wind tilts it. You get the picture. I bought a pair of mirror from Ecklers and the drivers side did the samething as yours, it wobbled. I tried every combination with the old one and it still did the samething. Called Ecklers and take to the tech guy and he said that they've sold thousands and never had any problem. I ask them to send me another one. Got it and it fit perfect, no wobble. I have'nt put on the passenger side yet. Hope it doesn't wobble.

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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 71LS5Stingray
I swear it must be the simple things that keep us from getting our Corvettes just like we want them.

I am having problems with the right side mirror install on my 1971 vette. No problems with drilling holes, mounting the base, etc. When I install the mirror head the set screw lines up fine, I tighten it up, "woila" it wobbles on the base.

I take it off, box it up, I send it back and get a replacement. Do the same thing and have the same problem. The set screw passes completely through the mounting base and bottoms out the threads of the set screw and does not secure the head... it wobbles all over the place.

Mind you I replaced the drivers side and it tightend down with flying colors.

Anybody else running into these problems. I am fixin' to mail this back for the 2nd time, get my money returned and order from another supplier.

LPS
If I hear ya correctly it's not just the head/mirror that won't tighten up but the mirror support stem where it attaches to the base.
If so, I had the same issue with one of my mirrors. This is easily resolved by placing a shim (I used black hard rubber mat I had laying around cut to fit) between the base and the stem right where the stem rests upon the base. This forces you to press the mirror down in order to start the hex set screw and as the set screw pulls into the base it forces a very tight fit between the attaching base an the mirror support stem.
Hope this helps/makes sense.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 12:08 AM
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I've experienced the same thing. It's not the head that is loose on the swivel...it's the whole thing is not rigid to the body. In my case, the fit of the machined allen head screw did not pull the mirror and pedestal down to the mounting surface. My fix was to find some 1/16" thick synthetic rubber sheet and cut out an "elastic" shim that would fit between the mounting plate and the pedestal base. It works fine and there is no more wobble.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:24 AM
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You are correct...

it's not the head that bobbles; it is the entire assembly. It doesn't tighten up to the mounting base...

setscrew should push the assembly against the mounting base and tighten up. at least that is what I see with the drivers side.

frustrating part is that this is the 2d one I have gotten that doesn't work.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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thanks for the suggestions fellas, i will give it a try. LPS
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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so if i am hearing you guys correctly. cut a shim and place it between the black door gasket and the mounting base to move the mounting base higher in relation to the stem?
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I have had this same exact problem. I have had to finess the screw through the hole and make sure it was getting all the way through without it bottoming out before making full depth.

Does your screw head go completely into the body of the mirror or is it sticking out slightly?

Good luck,
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Is there a little hook at the front of the mounting base? The mirror sets on at the front then drops at the rear to align the setscrew? Stand that hook up a little, make the distance between the setscrew and the front of the base a little bit longer..
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The location of the threaded hole appears to be the problem, IMO. I can tighten everything down and the head assy. is still loose. Yes, I cut the shim to fit inside of the plastic "seat". From 4 feet, it looks like the plastic "seat" is just one solid piece. It works great and give the mirror head a bit of flexibility, in case it gets bumped.
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thanks guys. appreciate the assist. I will let you know how it comes out when I try the fix. LPS
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
The location of the threaded hole appears to be the problem, IMO. I can tighten everything down and the head assy. is still loose. Yes, I cut the shim to fit inside of the plastic "seat". From 4 feet, it looks like the plastic "seat" is just one solid piece. It works great and give the mirror head a bit of flexibility, in case it gets bumped.
Not sure if this will help, but I found a wider, shorter screw that went all the way in real tight and make its own threads and it seemed to help me.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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Dino,

FYI, the set screw screws all the way through the mounting base and bottoms out the threads. It goes completely into the body of the mirror and stops turning whe nthe therads bottom out.

I will give the suggested fixes a try and let you know.

Regards, Loren
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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Mine wouldn't lock down either. I took it back to Keens and we tried a couple of bases till we got one that snugged down tight. The repro ones are just poor quality was my takeaway.

I also have the wiggle from the mounting point being weak. But it's minor. Biggest issue is that the mirror just doesn't adjust well. Very limited movement at thee pivot ball on the mirror. It's good enough though.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
I've experienced the same thing. It's not the head that is loose on the swivel...it's the whole thing is not rigid to the body. In my case, the fit of the machined allen head screw did not pull the mirror and pedestal down to the mounting surface. My fix was to find some 1/16" thick synthetic rubber sheet and cut out an "elastic" shim that would fit between the mounting plate and the pedestal base. It works fine and there is no more wobble.
Thanks for posting this fix Charlie!

My RH mirror has been loose for some time even though the screw was tight. I went out to the shop this afternoon and cut an oversize shim from a bicycle tube. After I got the mirror remounted I trimmed the shim to final size using an xacto knife. You have to look really hard to tell that the shim has been added and it tightened the mirror mounting right up.

Thanks again!
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You are certainly welcome. Glad to be of help.
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I had the same problem and found that new base gaskets fixed the problem. No more wobble..

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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 05:59 AM
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Good suggestions and will do that if it starts to wobble again. I had a probelm with the well nuts not tightening up enough and withdrawing themselves from the hole when tightened. Ended up using some from Ramset well nuts which went in deeper and tightened up better.
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