New engine and tranny in - wont turn over now!!
04-29-2007, 09:22 PM
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Hook up the clutch linkage, depress the clutch, the clutch disk will center itself, (you can never get them perfectly centered with that stupid alignment tool ) and you will be able to turn the motor over 
This is the reason that you had to pull the tranny in with the bolts, what you should do next time is depress the clutch and the tranny will slide all the way in very easily
This is the reason that you had to pull the tranny in with the bolts, what you should do next time is depress the clutch and the tranny will slide all the way in very easily
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04-29-2007, 10:35 PM
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Posting bad information like that certainly isn't helping the person. Were you making a joke?
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04-29-2007, 10:45 PM
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Hmmmm...this thread caught my eye since I have some experience installing clutches. I must confess I was pretty surprised when you posted that advice about flexplates too. Just curious...why did you post that? Posting bad information like that certainly isn't helping the person. Were you making a joke?
Posting bad information like that certainly isn't helping the person. Were you making a joke?It wasn't advice at all. It was just a question, or an idea of something to consider. I'm not specifically familiar with manual setups but I have had motors not turning because something wasn't installed or aligned correctly.
It was just an idea, and a question. A simple..."Manuals don't have a flex plate."...would have been a perfect answer but calling it bad advice is just a spin.
04-29-2007, 10:58 PM
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This is NOT directed at anybody. I direct this toward an idea.
"Flexplates" are used with automatic transmissions on GM,Ford, and Mopar.
Manual transmissions use a clutch. It is bolted to a "Flywheel" This is true on GM, Ford, Mopar, and my lawnmower.
"Flexplates" are used with automatic transmissions on GM,Ford, and Mopar.
Manual transmissions use a clutch. It is bolted to a "Flywheel" This is true on GM, Ford, Mopar, and my lawnmower.
04-29-2007, 11:03 PM
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Maybe he should lay off the caffeine
I'm new here and while I'm sure there are people who really know their stuff, but I bet the vast majority doesn't and the beauty of this forum is to be able to ask questions and pick peoples' minds whenever one is trying to troubleshoot a problem they might have with their perspective car.
I wouldn't have any idea as to what the problem could be but I hope he gets his car running fine
I'm new here and while I'm sure there are people who really know their stuff, but I bet the vast majority doesn't and the beauty of this forum is to be able to ask questions and pick peoples' minds whenever one is trying to troubleshoot a problem they might have with their perspective car.
I wouldn't have any idea as to what the problem could be but I hope he gets his car running fine
People that DO know should answer.
People should not guess, unless they qualify it as a guess.
04-29-2007, 11:06 PM
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04-29-2007, 11:15 PM
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I had the engine on a cradle, with the flywheel and clutch attached before I had set the valves...must have rotated the engine eover a dozen times whilst setting and then checking the valves.
The linkage is on the tranny, I have the shifter in the middle (out of gear) "wobbling around" and can spin the tailshaft so it doesnt seem to be stuck in gear.
The clutch fork is free, by that I mean if I push forward its easy to move (throw out bearing towards the back of the car) and if I push it backward I can feel it hit the fingers of the pressure plate (I can't move it much more forward by hand)
I will conect up the linkage tomorrow, and see what happens when I press the pedal.
Nick
The linkage is on the tranny, I have the shifter in the middle (out of gear) "wobbling around" and can spin the tailshaft so it doesnt seem to be stuck in gear.
The clutch fork is free, by that I mean if I push forward its easy to move (throw out bearing towards the back of the car) and if I push it backward I can feel it hit the fingers of the pressure plate (I can't move it much more forward by hand)
I will conect up the linkage tomorrow, and see what happens when I press the pedal.
Nick
04-29-2007, 11:59 PM
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04-30-2007, 02:52 AM
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By the way, don't beat yourself up, you'll get it. I installed a clutch backwards once. Apparently the T56 uses a pull style clutch which installs with the hub facing the flywheel (unlike other clutches) FYI.
Good thing I figured it out before I stepped on the clutch pedal.
04-30-2007, 07:33 AM
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I'm not up on all things car related and nor do I have to be to own a Vette and while I do have a good friend who works on them, it's always nice to be able to troubleshoot and fix it myself rather then running it off to him everytime.
I think sending someone a pm to pointout a mistake does nothing for the board in general other then to embarrass that person.
The board would be better served by posting the correct info and seeing that BBShark seems to know as per his pm to D-Boy, he hasn't even pointed out the mistake in this thread which would be more informative then knocking someone in a pm don't ya think?
A person's mechanical prowess shouldn't be religated to pm-form but rather shared openly
04-30-2007, 08:03 AM
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OK..back to my original post and my original problem.............its fixed.
As some people suggested, I connected up the clutch, pressed the pedal a couple of times and voila...engine turns over....
thanx all.....
OK..back to what ever everyone else was talking about...I'm going back to work on the vette.
As some people suggested, I connected up the clutch, pressed the pedal a couple of times and voila...engine turns over....
thanx all.....
OK..back to what ever everyone else was talking about...I'm going back to work on the vette.
04-30-2007, 08:47 AM
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04-30-2007, 09:17 AM
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OK..back to my original post and my original problem.............its fixed.
As some people suggested, I connected up the clutch, pressed the pedal a couple of times and voila...engine turns over....
thanx all.....
OK..back to what ever everyone else was talking about...I'm going back to work on the vette.
As some people suggested, I connected up the clutch, pressed the pedal a couple of times and voila...engine turns over....
thanx all.....
OK..back to what ever everyone else was talking about...I'm going back to work on the vette.
Glad to hear it was a simple fix.
04-30-2007, 09:40 AM
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Glad ya got it worked out. I never have liked useing that alignment tool, always have better luck useing my fingers, just feel around the edges of the pressure plate and make sure it feels the same all the way around
04-30-2007, 12:42 PM
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OK..back to my original post and my original problem.............its fixed.
As some people suggested, I connected up the clutch, pressed the pedal a couple of times and voila...engine turns over....
thanx all.....
OK..back to what ever everyone else was talking about...I'm going back to work on the vette.
As some people suggested, I connected up the clutch, pressed the pedal a couple of times and voila...engine turns over....
thanx all.....
OK..back to what ever everyone else was talking about...I'm going back to work on the vette.
I'll put that fix you did in my memory banks if I ever run into that problem. Actually, I have had very good luck using clutch alignment tools to get things lined up. Some alignment tools are pretty much junk and some are really great.Here's the set I use:
http://www.clutchtools.com/