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Old May 17, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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Hope this is not a repeat of other post.
Ihave a 77 coup L48 all stock except have headers installed.
Looking to improve HP. to300-350hp. I would like to keep my
old 76cc heads. Here is what i was thinking.
1. Changing the pistons' with a set of dome style pistons
to raise the compession to about 62-65cc.
2. Port and polish the old heads for better flow
3. Replace the cam to?? (need suggestions)
4. Replace intake (need suggestions)

Every one seems to suggest replacing the heads and ofcourse
this would be best. But would a setup like above work and if
so, What HP. would I gain. There is 90,000 miles on the old
pistons and rings, so I thought this may kill two birds with one stone.
The rest of the engine is solid.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 07:35 AM
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Have you done a compression test on the motor to see what you;re rings and seats are holding?

Another thin to consider is wear on your bearings. If your motor has worn a but the extra compression from domed pistons would put a strain on the rings and rod bearings.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by millman
Hope this is not a repeat of other post.
Ihave a 77 coup L48 all stock except have headers installed.
Looking to improve HP. to300-350hp. I would like to keep my
old 76cc heads. Here is what i was thinking.
1. Changing the pistons' with a set of dome style pistons
to raise the compession to about 62-65cc.
2. Port and polish the old heads for better flow
3. Replace the cam to?? (need suggestions)
4. Replace intake (need suggestions)

Every one seems to suggest replacing the heads and ofcourse
this would be best. But would a setup like above work and if
so, What HP. would I gain. There is 90,000 miles on the old
pistons and rings, so I thought this may kill two birds with one stone.
The rest of the engine is solid.
If your determined to keep the 77 heads don't waste any money porting them just run them as they are. Take a look at post #41 on the thread started by
andylmusic76, where he askes if he should use a set of 58cc chamber 305
heads. Then make up your mind if you want to port old heads.

Last edited by Little Mouse; May 17, 2007 at 09:01 AM.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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Thanks for the reply's
I read post #41 and believe i'am starting to see the difference.
Looks to me like Vortec heads may be the answer for me.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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If you're going to replace the pistons, you'll need to measure the cylinders for taper and out of round. Then the crank rod journals for the same things. If everything is within tolerances, hone the cylinders to fit the new pistons and rings. At 90k miles, I'll bet there is more wear than you think, Not trying to be negative, just a look at reality. I'm reasonably sure you don't want to spend $$$ for new heads and pistons, then smoke like a chimney because the rings won't seat and then rattle becaust the pistons are too loose in the bores. It may be time to look at a crate engine or a full rebuild.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TimAT
If you're going to replace the pistons, you'll need to measure the cylinders for taper and out of round. Then the crank rod journals for the same things. If everything is within tolerances, hone the cylinders to fit the new pistons and rings. At 90k miles, I'll bet there is more wear than you think, Not trying to be negative, just a look at reality. I'm reasonably sure you don't want to spend $$$ for new heads and pistons, then smoke like a chimney because the rings won't seat and then rattle becaust the pistons are too loose in the bores. It may be time to look at a crate engine or a full rebuild.
Yes your right, The more I read and think about it , The more I relieze
it was a stupid idea to try and take short cuts.
Thanks
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